Re: Glibc and NetBSD
Matthew Garrett wrote:
> I have a sufficiently working glibc that I can build binutils and gcc
> against it and then use them to rebuild a working glibc, but it'll
> need some work yet before it's even vaguely production ready. The
> general opinion at Debconf seemed to be that going with glibc was
> preferable to using BSD libc - does anyone have any comments?
>
I do. I'm probably somewhat ahead of you, as shown by the dpkg -l output
at the below. Most Debian sources compile cleanly, some need a little
bit of hacking, but it's mostly configure or libtool doing the wrong
thing. Occasionally, there's a case like ncurses that does an #ifdef
__FreeBSD__ that's bogus with glibc.
The problem I'm having is that I can't get freebsd sources to build on
top of glibc. The library and utility sources that I need seem to be
wanting a lot of stuff that simply isn't in the glibc headers. So I had
the bright idea of compiling the freebsd-buildutils package (contains
BSD make, install, find, and almost everything else the freebsd sources
require) statically against libc. The problem I ran into next was that
mtree and install try to look up usernames, and bound against libc
instead of glibc, they were looking for a pwd.db that wasn't there.
So I'm faced with a dilemma. Do I:
1. hack FreeBSD sources to build with glibc
2. hack glibc to build FreeBSD sources
3. try to make both libc's coexist
Some combination of option 1 and 2 seems most likely to work. I think
we're going to need to be able to use libraries like libkvm with glibc.
I'd been thinking of writing a python wrapper for libcam, and at least
cdrecord will want libcam also.
What concerns me most is that any changes I make to FreeBSD sources to
get them working with glibc will probably not be acceptable upstream,
which poses a large maintenance problem.
---Nathan
(glibc, gcc 3.0 and 3.1, and binutils aren't packaged in the glibc
chroot yet.)
skaro:/build# dpkg -l
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Description
+++-==============-==============-============================================
ii ash 0.3.8-38 NetBSD /bin/sh
ii autoconf 2.53-4 automatic configure script builder
ii autoconf2.13 2.13-44 automatic configure script builder
(obsolete
ii base-files 3.0.3 Debian base system miscellaneous files
ii base-passwd 3.4.1 Debian Base System Password/Group Files
ii byacc 1.9-13.1 The Berkeley LALR parser generator
ii csh 20020413-1 Shell with C-like syntax, standard
login she
ii cvs 1.11.2-3 Concurrent Versions System
ii dbs 0.11 Files used for the development of DBS
source
ii debconf 1.1.17 Debian configuration management system
ii debconf-utils 1.1.17 debconf utilities
iU debhelper 4.0.2 helper programs for debian/rules
ii debianutils 1.16.3 Miscellaneous utilities specific to
Debian.
ii dpkg 1.10.2 Package maintenance system for Debian
ii dselect 1.10.2 a user tool to manage Debian packages
ii file 3.37-3.1 Determines file type using "magic" numbers
ii fileutils 4.1.9-3 GNU file management utilities
ii flex 2.5.4a-26 A fast lexical analyzer generator.
ii freebsd-buildu 4.5-20020511.5 FreeBSD build utilities
ii freebsd-make 4.6-020718.2 FreeBSD make for Debian
iF groff 1.17.2-17 GNU troff text-formatting system
ii groff-base 1.17.2-17 GNU troff text-formatting system (base
syste
ii libnewt0 0.50.17-9.6 Not Erik's Windowing Toolkit - text
mode win
ii libperl5.6 5.6.1-7 Shared Perl library.
ii libpopt-dev 1.6.4-2 lib for parsing cmdline parameters -
develop
ii libpopt0 1.6.4-2 lib for parsing cmdline parameters
ii m4 1.4-14 a macro processing language
ii passwd 20000902-12 Change and administer password and
group dat
ii perl 5.6.1-7 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and
Report
ii perl-base 5.6.1-7 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish
Lister.
ii perl-modules 5.6.1-7 Core Perl modules.
ii python 2.1.3-3 An interactive object-oriented
scripting lan
ii python-dev 2.1.3-3 Header files and a static library for
Python
ii python2.1 2.1.3-3 An interactive object-oriented
scripting lan
ii python2.1-dev 2.1.3-3 Header files and a static library for
Python
ii sharutils 4.2.1-9 shar, unshar, uuencode, uudecode
ii slang1 1.4.4-7.2 The S-Lang programming library -
runtime ver
ii slang1-dev 1.4.4-7.2 The S-Lang programming library,
development
ii tcl8.0 8.0.5-6 The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 -
Run-T
ii tcl8.0-dev 8.0.5-6 The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 -
Devel
ii tcl8.3 8.3.3-7 The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.3 -
Run-T
ii tcl8.3-dev 8.3.3-7 The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.3 -
Devel
ii texi2html 1.64-cvs200104 Convert Texinfo files to HTML
ii whiptail 0.50.17-9.6 Displays user-friendly dialog boxes
from she
ii zlib-bin 1.1.4-1 compression library - sample programs
ii zlib1g 1.1.4-1 compression library - runtime
ii zlib1g-dev 1.1.4-1 compression library - development
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