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Bug#249545: marked as done (installation report (d-i 20040506))



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Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: Daily snapshot, from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040506/

uname -a: Linux debtst13 2.6.5-1-386 #2 Fri Apr 30 20:13:30 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

Date: <Date and time of the install>

	2004.05.16 (afternoon/evening)

Method: <How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
      install, from where?  Proxied?>

Using the Sarge netinst ISO image (http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040506/), booted off the CD, ran the installer, completed via apt-get'ting remaining packages via the
	repositories (ftp.debian.org)

Machine: <Description of machine (eg, IBM Thinkpad R32)>

	x86 "wintel" clone: Gigabyte GA-7VT600-P-L motherboard, plus
		ASUS Radeon 9200SE 64MB AGP.
	The built-in SATA controller was not turned off.

Processor:
	Duron 1.4 GHz, 266MHz FSB.

Memory:
	256MB RAM DDR (PC3200)

Root Device: <IDE?  SCSI?  Name of device?>
	EIDE (1 HD)
	WDC WD400EB-00CPF0

Root Size/partition table: <Feel free to paste the full partition
      table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.>

	Command (m for help): p

	Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40019582464 bytes
	255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
	Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

	   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
	/dev/hda1               1        1304    10474348+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
	/dev/hda2            1305        1368      514080   82  Linux swap
	/dev/hda3   *        1369        4865    28089652+  83  Linux

	Command (m for help): q

	debtst3:~#

Output of lspci:

	debtst13:~# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP] Host Bridge (rev 80)
	0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
0000:00:0a.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940/2940W / AIC-7871 (rev 03) 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) 0000:00:0c.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) 0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3149 (rev 80) 0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE

(rev 06)
0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81) 0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81) 0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81) 0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6202 [USB 2.0 controller] (rev 81)
	0000:00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South] 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) 0000:00:13.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01) 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Secondary) (rev 01)

	debtst13:~#


Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:    [ O ]
Configure network HW:   [ O ]
Config network:         [ O ]
Detect CD:              [ O ]
Load installer modules: [ O ]
Detect hard drives:     [ O ]
Partition hard drives:  [ did manually, to keep pre-existing FAT32 partition ]
Create file systems:    [ did manually ]
Mount partitions:       [ did manually ]
Install base system:    [ O ]
Install boot loader:    [ O ]
Reboot:                 [ O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

<Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments
      and ideas you had during the initial install.>

**	result of lspci -n:

	0000:00:00.0 Class 0600: 1106:3189 (rev 80)
	0000:00:01.0 Class 0604: 1106:b198
	0000:00:0a.0 Class 0100: 9004:7178 (rev 03)
	0000:00:0c.0 Class 0400: 109e:036e (rev 11)
	0000:00:0c.1 Class 0480: 109e:0878 (rev 11)
	0000:00:0f.0 Class 0104: 1106:3149 (rev 80)
	0000:00:0f.1 Class 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06)
	0000:00:10.0 Class 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
	0000:00:10.1 Class 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
	0000:00:10.2 Class 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
	0000:00:10.3 Class 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
	0000:00:10.4 Class 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 86)
	0000:00:11.0 Class 0601: 1106:3227
	0000:00:11.5 Class 0401: 1106:3059 (rev 60)
	0000:00:13.0 Class 0200: 10ec:8139 (rev 10)
	0000:01:00.0 Class 0300: 1002:5964 (rev 01)
	0000:01:00.1 Class 0380: 1002:5d44 (rev 01)

**	result of lsmod:

	Module                  Size  Used by
	af_packet              20488  2
	8139cp                 18944  0
	snd_via82xx            23712  0
	snd_ac97_codec         54788  1 snd_via82xx
	gameport                4736  1 snd_via82xx
	snd_mpu401_uart         7168  1 snd_via82xx
	snd_rawmidi            22688  1 snd_mpu401_uart
	snd_seq_device          7816  1 snd_rawmidi
	uhci_hcd               29072  0
	sata_via                7044  0
	bt878                  11056  0
	btaudio                16272  0
	snd_bt87x              12740  0
	snd_pcm                85796  2 snd_via82xx,snd_bt87x
	snd_timer              23300  1 snd_pcm
	snd                    48996  8 	
snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_bt87x,snd_pcm,snd_timer
	snd_page_alloc         10756  3 snd_via82xx,snd_bt87x,snd_pcm
	tuner                  16652  0
	bttv                  138988  1 bt878
	video_buf              19844  1 bttv
	i2c_algo_bit            8968  1 bttv
	v4l2_common             6400  1 bttv
	btcx_risc               4744  1 bttv
	i2c_core               21636  3 tuner,bttv,i2c_algo_bit
	videodev                9728  1 bttv
	pciehp                 84844  0
	shpchp                 87020  0
	pci_hotplug            32048  2 pciehp,shpchp
	via_agp                 7424  1
	agpgart                31528  1 via_agp
	evdev                   9088  0
	ehci_hcd               25476  0
	usbcore                93788  4 uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
	via82cxxx_audio        25992  0
	uart401                11332  1 via82cxxx_audio
	sound                  75564  2 via82cxxx_audio,uart401
	soundcore               9696  5 btaudio,snd,bttv,via82cxxx_audio,sound
	ac97_codec             16908  1 via82cxxx_audio
	aic7xxx               175976  0
	8139too                23680  0
	mii                     4864  2 8139cp,8139too
	crc32                   4608  2 8139cp,8139too
	ide_cd                 37636  0
	cdrom                  36640  1 ide_cd
	rtc                    11960  0
	reiserfs              197616  1
	vfat                   14208  0
	fat                    41792  1 vfat
	isofs                  32312  0
	ext3                  103720  0
	jbd                    54168  1 ext3
	ide_disk               16768  3
	ide_generic             1536  0
	generic                 4224  1
	via82cxxx              13084  1
	ide_core              134752  5 ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic,generic,via82cxxx
	sd_mod                 19840  0
	ata_piix                7940  0
	libata                 36480  2 sata_via,ata_piix,[permanent]
	scsi_mod              111692  3 aic7xxx,sd_mod,libata
	unix                   25776  4
	font                    8576  0
	cfbcopyarea             3840  0
	cfbimgblt               3200  0
	cfbfillrect             3712  0


**	contents of /etc/modutils/actions:

	# Special actions that are needed for some modules

	options tuner type=2

	# The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically,
	# so do that in here
	post-install bttv insmod tuner
	post-remove bttv rmmod tuner


A few notes, more or less in order:
(0) the 2004.05.06 daily snapshot was the first one I noticed, and the last one to detect my tv card (an ATI TV WONDER/VE). Subsequent snapshots of the installer reverted back to the "ignore the tv card"
	behaviour.

(1) the PCMCIA kernel modules were not loaded, contrary to the behaviour of previous daily snapshot or
	of the previous beta releases I have tested.  This is good.

(2) kernel 2.6.5-1, as used by daily snapshot 20040506, recognized the built-in SATA controllers on my
	motherboard, as per "lsmod". Kernel 2.4.x did not IIRC.

(3) for manual partitionning: you should consider using a screen layout like the one used for cfdisk
	or like the FreeBSD FDISK partition editor (see screenshot at:
	http://www.distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/freebsd-partition.png)
One can make out easily what he works with (or on) and what one can do, i.e. all available commands, no guessing required. Or in other words, you know what the objects are and what you can do to them.

(4) While the proper modules were loaded (though not through /etc/modules -- I wonder where and how), there were not /dev/video or any similar device. Trying to install & use kdetv to see how things worked (or not) gave me the error that no devices existed. Either 3rd party software have yet to adjust to the new realities of kernel 2.6, or the installer really did not set up the proper devices. Very odd.

(5)	One way of getting /dev/video* device files was to install xawtv
	(apt-get install xawtv xawtv-plugin-qt tv-fonts)
After that, kdetv worked. This was _after_ installing a DE (KDE 3.2.2), if this makes a difference.

(6) I am in north-america and have a TV-Wonder/VE in my system. This should make for an easy TV modules configuration, and yet the "tuner" modules insists on thinking that the tuner on my ATI tv card is a type=19 (Temic, PAL). In fact, trying to get the tuner to work as a type 2 (Philips NTSC) is turning out to be a major production. Just adding an "options tuner type=2" statement in /etc/modutils/actions does not do the trick. The tuner modules apparently ignores any configuration
	item I trow (sp?) at it.

(7) The problem with the v4l bttv tuner modules that treats an Philips NTSC tuner as if it was something else is not unique to Debian. I have seen this with SuSE 8.x and 9.0 too. While detecting the hardware does not seem to be a major problem, getting the modules to behave as they should is
	another story. (See note #6.)

(8) for some reason, I have had to insist and do a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" to get a working X configuration, because the wrong driver for my video card has not been picked up. I had to manually choose it ("ati", for my Radeo 9200SE AGP) as well as specify a proper resolution for it (1024x7. When I selected "desktop environment" in tasksel and got everything *including the kitchen sink* (KDE+GNOME+...), I did get a working video driver, but the resolution was stuck at
	800x600.

(9) Using taskel, it would be nice to be able to specify which desktop environment one wants to use. I, and others would prefer having one or another DE, not KDE and GNOME both at the same time. You should also let the user specify which display manager he/she wants. Some might be perfectly happy with gdm, but
	I'd prefer kdm.
	
(10)	To get the desktop environment I want, I needed to type the following:
	&&& START &&&
apt-get intall xserver-xfree86 xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xlibs kdebase kdenetwork kdemultimedia kdm msttcorefonts cupsomatic-ppd foomatic-bin kdetoys konq-plugins
	cupsys-driver-gimpprint libcupsys2 cupsys kdeartwork kpackage
	&&& END &&&

(11) I did run this installer (20040506 snapshot) on the evening of the 6th of may. I only re-ran it yesterday to get all relevant information and to point out that it was the one that had the most success with my hardware in recent times. I just ignored the errors in downloading some of its packages, as the archives must have been changed or something since 06 may. With enough cajoling, the install completed (just running "apt-get install" manually a few times afterwards). More recent daily snapshot have reverted to a less successful state, some even not finding an installable kernel!!!

Bruno Majewski
bruno /at/ pubnix /dot/ qc /dot/ ca




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We are closing this installation report for one of the following
reasons:
- it was reported with a pre-lenny version of Debian
  Installer.
- indications in the installation report give the feeling that
  the reported problem waslying in another software, unrelated to
  D-I, which we can't easily identify.
- indications in the installation report suggest that it may have been
  fixed in a more recent version of a D-I component
- it was successful and we forgot closing it..:-)
- it has no information we consider useful


The D-I team is currently in the process of cleaning out the old spool
of installation reports that haven't bene processed yet. 

In case you think that the problem you reported has chances to be
still present, please reiterate your installation test with
a more recent image of D-I, if you're in position of doing this.

You'll find daily builds at
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. We recommend you choose
the netboot image, in the "daily builds section", then choose to
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