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Re: Bug#369304: Quik uses OF input-device/output-device as console; on oldword this results in no visible outpu



On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:42:59AM +0200, p2@mind.be wrote:

> > quik uses the input-device and output-device of openfirmware as the
> > console.  Unfortunately many old world macs default to a serial console
> > for openfirmware thus the user never sees the quik boot screen, and
> > can't select what image to boot (or MacOS using image=$bye).
> > 
> > The kernel is afflicted with the same problem until the virtual
> > terminals are activated, thus no boot messages are available to the
> > typical oldworld mac user.
> 
> I know. I think the best solution is to have the installer modify the
> input-device and output-device variables to point to keyboard/screen.

I was thinking of doing this; I wanted to see if there was an easier way
first.  I'll be hacking on quik-installer next week to see about doing this.
AIUI quik needs boot-device to be eg. /bandit/ohare/mesh/sd@x:0 to boot 
the master boot record anyway (maybe this is model dependant as well?).  At
least my mac-clone doesn't boot the mbr unless I specify the boot-device.

> There are a few cases in which you still want serial console. Some
> models (eg 7200, I'm not sure if there are others) don't have OF support 
> for the onboard framebuffer. Serial console is your only option then. 
> The ANS (Apple Network Server) is likely to be run headless, so serial
> OF console may be the right thing to do there. I think the installer
> should propose a default I/O choice to the user based on the model and
> then modify the OF vars based on the users choice.
 
That's a good idea.  I also need a big scary warning with option to abort
before modifying boot-device.  I'm thinking that at the most detailed debconf priority
there could be input fields for the user to specify input-device, output-device,
and boot-device themselves (with defaults to what normally would happen).

What do you think?

-- 
And that's my crabbing done for the day.  Got it out of the way early, 
now I have the rest of the afternoon to sniff fragrant tea-roses or 
strangle cute bunnies or something.   -- Michael Devore

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