Re: d-i first-stage configuration
Am Friday 30 January 2004 21:57 schrieb Steinar H. Gunderson:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 05:23:19PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Language: English
> > Country: United States
> > Keyboard: us
> > Network: eth0 using DHCP
> > Hostname: debian
> > Mirror: http.us.debian.org
> > Mode: novice
> >
> > You really think that will come across as a big blob of data, rather than
> > a list of things that can be changed?
It is defenitely a very nice thing!
> "A big blob of data" is a bit too much, I'll admit that.
>
> However, assume the user knows nothing about what the heck "eth0", "DHCP",
> "hostname" or even "mirror" is; then I'd believe it's confusing. :-)
> Of course, if we could change to "first network card", "automatically",
> "computer name" and "download site" or whatever, it would probably be
> slightly easier. (I'm not really sure if those are sane terms or not, but
> you'd probably get the idea.)
I think this terms are better than the original. I think the keybord item
should use better names for the keyboard type too. "us" is not that
descriptive to novice users.
> The question is, do we really need all of those? Even if the user har
> specified "novice" first? What will it buy us over the current rather
> "wizard-based" (if I can say that word without people throwing up ;-) )
> approach?
With the proposed term changes, I think most people understand this overview.
I'm not a novice, but I guess this would fit my needs normaly. So it seems to
be quite a balanced selection of items.
It's just a little easier to click "install with these settings" once than
having to ask one question after the other. If a novice doesn't understand an
item, it doesn't feel that bad to go further than if he's presented a whole
"wizard-step" he can't answer. So the defaults (which should fit novice's
needs) are more easily accepted without asking oneself: "$*%§! I don't
understand a word, but I sure have to change something...".
> Of course, I still think we shouldn't do too ugly hacks close to release.
> Of course, nobody knows when release is supposed to be...
I'm following debian-boot for quite some time, and this is one of the most
userfriendly proposal (maybe besides partman) I saw up to now! I think this
would realy ease the pain of installing debian. So... please do it now
Simon
who is impressed by the progress of d-i in the last few months
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