Am 2004-12-27 11:28:49, schrieb fester@mwt.net: > I started with a $38 P2 I bought on Ebay. Upon completing the download for SARGE > the machine wouldn't load GRUB, something about an error 18. I posted a request > for an explanation of error 18 and was told to create a small boot partition at > the beginning of my hard drive. I did so. This is normaly not neccesary, because there is no 1024 Cylinder limit anymore. > 1. The boot partition must be named /boot, :-) > 2. Don't bother defining it as being bootable yet, the next partition you define > becomes bootable by default, > 3. Say you want your /boot partition formatted, the partitioning won't finish > without it, > 4. When you're starting just use the EXT3 system unless you have a good reason > not to, > 5. Watch out for PARTITION NOT USED, you don?t want it, > 6. Your next partition must attach at / (root), > 7. Don't forget to go back and make your /boot partition bootable. Why not make hda1 pri / 250 MB (bootable) hda2 pri swap 250 MB hda3 pri /tmp 500 MB hda5 log /usr 3000 MB hda6 log /var 500 MB hda7 log /var/log 200 MB hda8 log /home XXXX MB > I decided to try downloading WOODY in hopes of a more care-free experience. This > time I couldn't start X-WINDOWS, the fonts were missing. Running APT-GET INSTALL > XSERVER-XFREE86 produced no results. To get a minimal X-Window, you need apt-get install x-windows-system-core and a window-manager like "fvwm" or for a full X-Window apt-get install x-windows-system If you need other charsets like iso-8859-15 you need to install apt-get install xfonts-base-transcodes xfonts-75dpi-transcoded \ xfonts-100dpi-transcoded > WOODY wasn't doing any better than SARGE so I downloaded SARGE again and got the WOODY installs perfectly... > same problem with X-WINDOWS. About this time I noticed that on a fairly regular > basis files timed-out rather than download, thus I know I had several missing > files. By this time I was getting fairly used to using APT-GET, with a ??? - Never heared about it. Which files are missing ? > half-dozen variants. Sometimes they added a couple hundred extra megabytes to my > hard-drive (oh joy!). What Du you have tried to install ? Eh... apt-get install * > Loading SARGE the third time worked no better than the first two tries. (While I > was doing all this downloading, I noticed any website would download the first > file, but none would download anything else unless the current time was shortly > after the top of the hour. I'd sure like to know why.)I went to > LinuxQuestions.org for help and got it. One recurring theme was, what was in > this or that file? There wasn?t anything obvious like an EDIT command to use so There are no files to edit... When was the download blocking ? While bootstraping the Base-Packages ? How do you have downloaded it ? Modem, ISDN, DSL or fixed Network ? What about 'nano-tiny' as editor ? > I loaded Knoppix. Knoppix allowed me to read files but not to change them > because Debian said Knoppix wasn?t the owner. (This is a nice security feature > but underscores the need for an easy-to-use text editor.) Next I was steered to > VI, and as promised, it wasn?t easy to learn. Eventually I learned what I needed > to and made the changes I wanted. What about the command 'su' or 'su-to-root' ? > The next thing I tried was re-running the setup utility. There I noticed the > DESKTOP option I had checked was no longer checked, which probably explains why > I couldn?t run X-WINDOWS. In addition, the MAIL SERVER option was checked when I > hadn?t asked for it during the install. I unchecked MAIL SERVER and re-checked > DESKTOP and exited the utility. A bunch of stuff was deleted but X-WINDOWS still > hadn?t made it onto my machine. The x-window-system needs an xserver :-) And many other Packages too. No MTA no X ! > Finally, it was suggested I tried APT-GET DIST-UPGRADE, this generated some > activity. Next I ran APT-GET UPDATE and APT-GET UPGRADE for about the tenth > time. This time it used up several hundred meg more disk space. Somehow I was > moved into a setup routine for X-WINDOWS. During the usual, and truly helpful, > dialog boxes, I came across one which explained very nicely about all the > different types of mice there are in the world. The next screen was a listing of > mouse drivers. The problem was: the dialog box never told me which driver to use > for my kind of mouse. I picked one and got lucky. If you know your mouse, you know its driver... > I tried STARTX again, and lo-and-behold X-WINDOWS came up! I was so happy I > quit there until after the holidays. > > > All this whining assumes the intent of Debian/Linux is to eventually become a > widely used operating system for use by the average computer user. If I?m right, Ehm what ? - Debian is already used by "averaged computer users" the problems are some DOS/Windows-Users :-) > maybe my experience will help squash some of the bugs. If I?m not, I?m sorry you > bothered to read this far. In any event I plan to continue learning and using > the system. Do you have read the install-manual ? I think not, so RTFM ! Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/88452356 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
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