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Bug#192305: "q to end, b for begin" ambiguous



On Mon, 12 May 2003, Thomas Viehmann wrote:

> > There are times when simple letters are not enough and you need to
> > choose between alternatives such letters combined with {alt,control} and
> > function keys.
> 
> > Function keys were invented for this purpose.
> A d-i module with need for more than 30 keys on one page seems pretty
> hypothetical to me. On the contrary, people typing F10 instead of pressing it
> seems somewhat common with computer newbies. (Can those install debian though...)

There is that;-)

I remember when I learned to play chess. I'd just about mastered moving
the pieces and I played a whole game. I got checkmated on the fourth
move.

I learned to play chess a little better after that.

Here' we're not writing programs for absolute beginners. To do a sane
job of installing _any_ modern operating system, you need to have a
reasonable understanding of what you're doing. The fact so many lack
this knowledge and so do an insane job of installing Windows, and that
goes far to explain all the robots that attack my webserver, completely
ignoring the fact it's not IIS or Windows.

Will people make those mistakes? Probably, but expecting them to get
that right is asking much less than expecting them to be able to
identify their graphics card, or knowing the specs of their monitor.

> 
> >>Also, shortcuts are almost never translated, and people having ever used
> > Sounds like discrimination to me;-). I'm peeved enough that Americans
> > don't know that we use A4 paper, colour is spelled colour etc. At least
> > American is fairly close to English;-).
> Well, translating too much stuff (like a macro languages keywords/function
> names, as the company we all know did) is worse. Actually the way German
> keyboards are laid out, Ctrl-{"{","[","]","}"} is quite annoying, but besides
> this: How much sense did keyboard shortcuts make in the first placa? (Ctrl-V
> probably is short for "Very-convenieent-key-for-paste"?)


I've no idea where ^V originated. I'm pretty sure it did something
different in WordStart. The shortcut _I_ learned for paste (and which
seems to work _and_ be more logical) is Control-INS.

It works on OS/2 and WIndows, and I don't see any reason at all for yet
another convention in that respect.



> 
> Cheers
> 
> T.
> 

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