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Re: amd64 installation



On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
> I forgot a key point: my move to 64 is essentially to double the floating 
> point for the package mpqc, which i use on 32 but it is available as a debian 
> package for the testing. To write papers, sending mail or navigating on 
> internet i would have not thought to 64bit.

why not use the 32 userland with the 64 kernel, which should allow you
to install and run your 64 bit app - with the appropiate libraries of
course, best of both worlds 

> 
> Hi Craig:
> 
> I decided to follow your 2nd suggestion (for a non expert like me) to install 
> permanently ubuntu 5.10, albeit with much regret because I had always loved 
> the debian environment, people in the first place. I downloaded the ubuntu 
> *.iso and wrote the ISO 9660 but I forgot to check before the list of 
> hardware on ubuntu. Well, the Tyan below (Tyan K8WE S2895 nvidia nForce pro 
> 2200 and 2050) is not listed as supported; only older Tyans. Try nonetheless? 
> Doubtuful with kernel 2.6.12.6 of ubuntu 5.10
> 
> On the other hand, Goswin answered my mail below advising (for my particular 
> needs and capability) to avoid debian <testing> and go to <sarge>. Again a 
> rather old kernel and thus probably no support to the Tyan mainboard.
> 
> The alternative is trying with the debian testing installer (may be by paving 
> the way through a ubuntu amd64 live CD??) but I strongly rely on Goswin's 
> indications. But this seems to me the only viable route.
> 
> Maybe I am overcomplicating the problem but I halted for a while any trial 
> until I exit my present confusion.
> 
> I hope not to bother all you too much
> 
> regards
> francesco pietra
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday 22 May 2006 08:06, Craig Hagerman wrote:
> > When I did a fresh install of Debian amd64 (couple years ago?) I
> > booted from a live CD (ubuntu has a 64 bit live CD) and did everything
> > from there. ie. partition the disk, create a chroot to where you want
> > the deb root partition, install debootstrap etc and go from there.
> >
> > If you are that hesitant about doing an installation yourself, why
> > don't you just download a copy of Ubuntu for amd64. I have computers
> > running both. the differences are minor, but the installation is
> > completely painless with Ubuntu, whereas I have never been able to say
> > that about Debian. With Ubuntu the installation is pretty automated
> > and lots of things just work ... things that I have to fight to get
> > working in Debian (realplayer anyone?).
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > On 5/22/06, Francesco Pietra <frapietra@alice.it> wrote:
> > > Hi all:
> > > I have followed with particular attention in the last few days all issues
> > > on this list related to amd64 debian installation. Just because I have
> > > now finally everything ready for a fresh installation on a fresh ready
> > > workstation equipped with Tyan K8WE S2895 (bearing video card Pixelview
> > > 6600 256M DDR DVI and a scsi card for external devices), a couple of dual
> > > amd64 opteron, and a couple of 300GB SATA HD.
> > >
> > > For the benefit of poor guys like me who rarely carry out software
> > > installations, could you please check my projected route, and its
> > > sequence, for suitability/correctness?
> > >
> > > 1) Start with debian installer
> > > Debian testing amd64 Bin-1/ISO9660 [93 MB] (CD-ROM waiting on my machine)
> > > burned from
> > > debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso [93.4 MB]
> > > as downloaded yesterday from
> > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> > >
> > > 2)Follow substantially a netinstall according to Roberto's howto
> > > http://haydn.debian.org/~intero-guest/debian-amd64-howto.html
> > >
> > > 3)Establish raid1. To this regard, I am at "Today 21:19:28" directions by
> > > Alexander Siek. I understand Alexander has positively answered all
> > > (nearly all?) criticism by Goswin. However, I must confess that i use a
> > > pc with debian testing/unstable but I never established a raid before.
> > > Therefore, I only hope to be able to follow Alexander's indications but
> > > it would be better for me to read before some general instructions as to
> > > establish a raid1. I have none yet.
> > >
> > > 4)Install 32b applications into a chroot as indicated in both Roberto's
> > > howto above and, for what I need, ie not sound) in
> > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/356
> > > without, however, following step
> > > 1.4) You also need a link to your 32bit linker in the /lib path:
> > >  $ cd /lib
> > >  $ ln -s /var/sid-386-chroot/lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.2
> > > because I read somewhere that installed libraries are linked per se.
> > >
> > > I hope the kernel provided supports my mainboard and I wish myself good
> > > luck. But there cannot be good luck without some guidance. Thanks a lot
> > >
> > > francesco pietra
> > >
> > >
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