I've just realized that I probably never announced or made clear that there is a new newsgroup for VIDE, and that I probably won't make VIDE announcements to this group. The best way to find out about the VIDE newsgroup is to see the VIDE page: http://www.objectcentral.com/vide.htm -- Bruce E. Wampler, Ph.D. Author of the V C++ GUI Framework e-mail: mailto:bruce@objectcentral.com web: http://www.objectcentral.com