Bug#1106116: apt: German locale problem

[Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org>]

On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 09:27:45PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 08:54:17PM +0200, Alex wrote:
> > Package: apt
> > Version: 3.0.1
> > Severity: minor
> > Tags: l10n
> > 
> > Dear Maintainer,
> > the German localization of "REMOVING" (in the overview what will be
> > instealled and removed) is currently "ENTFERNUNG", what is not the word
> > one would usually use. It is not completely wrong, but ambiguous (it
> > could also mean "distance") and uncommon in that use. One could try
> > something like "Deinstallation", but possibly all headlines could be
> > adapated not to use the passive form, as "Aktualisierung" also reads a
> > bit uncommen (but acceptable). The sentence "Abhängigkeiten werden
> > installiert" is fine. So maybe restructure it into:
> > 
> > Pakete, die installiert werden:
> > 
> > Abhängigkeiten, die installiert werden:
> > 
> > Pakete, die ENTFERNT werden:
> 
> It's a bit of a nightmare, but it should be
> 
> Installiere: (Installing:)
> 
> Installiere Abhängigkeiten: (Installing dependencies:)
> 
> ENTFERNE: (REMOVING:)
> 
> Sometimes I'm not sure people actually pay attention and run the
> thing they translated to make sure the wording is actually correct
> and consistent and in the same visual spirit.
> 
> And I did not review each translation in detail, apologies.
> 
> The design and motivation is explained in the interface guidelines
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/blob/main/doc/design/install.md?ref_type=heads

I now have this:

jak@jak-t14-g3 ~/P/D/apt (3.0.y)> LC_ALL=de_DE.utf-8 apt install ubuntu-desktop -s apt=3.1.0ubuntu3 --no-strict-pinning hello xterm-
HINWEIS: Dies ist nur eine Simulation!
         apt benötigt root-Privilegien für die reale Ausführung.
         Behalten Sie ebenfalls in Hinterkopf, dass die Sperren deaktiviert
         sind, verlassen Sie sich also bezüglich des reellen aktuellen
         Status der Sperre nicht darauf!

Aktualisiere:
  ubuntu-desktop

Installiere:
  hello

Installiere Abhängigkeiten:
  hwctl

ZURÜCK ZU ÄLTERER VERSION:
  apt  apt-dbgsym  apt-utils

ENTFERNE:
  xterm

Zusammenfassung:
  Aktualisiere: 1, Installiere: 2, Ersetze durch ältere Version: 3, Entferne: 1, Aktualisiere nicht: 42


(this example covers all the things)

How do people feel about it? I think this is the best we
can do in terms of understandability.

I think the imperative works hier, I said before it's in terms
of apt expressing itself, which sometimes it does, but you can
also treat it as you giving it an order.

(Bitte) aktualisiere ubuntu-desktop
(Bitte) Installiere hello.
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