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Bug#620064: marked as done (apt: please drop dependency on gnupg)



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Package: apt
Severity: wishlist

Hi,

please drop apt's dependency on gnupg.

There has already been some discussion in related bugs #387688 and
#558784.

Having a dependency on gnupg in both, apt/squeeze and
debian-archive-keyring/squeeze prevents problems with partial upgrades
after this bug has been fixed.


Regards
Carsten



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Version: 1.3~exp1

On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 10:39:05AM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On Tue 2011-03-29 12:32:37 -0400, Carsten Hey wrote:
> > please drop apt's dependency on gnupg.
> 
> We've talked about this in a few different contexts: it would be great
> to have apt Depend: strictly on gpgv instead of the full gnupg
> package.

Slightly ahead of you: I actually moved it to Recommends for the upcoming 1.3
release already. That version also complains about the reason why it is a
Recommends for now: apt-key being called from maintainer scripts to add/remove
keys. That is discouraged for years by now, but for now we have remains in
Debian itself (e.g. #390449, but that seems to be solved some way or another
eventually) and at least a bunch of third-party packages (I was told).
Given that there still exists things which use 'add' there is still a need
for 'del', so assuming all the bad guys are fixed in stretch, buster will
have an apt just suggesting gnupg…


In my book apt-key has very very limited real uses¹ compared to the heap of
things it is used for but shouldn't be anymore (like adding keys) – and
triggered by this (and the other bugreport) I am working on making that
a bit more obvious with more runtime warnings and manpage disclaimers now…

I somehow doubt this is going to help much (based on how the insecure
repository thing moved over the years and that was a lot more visible)
but at least we can point to ignored warning then.


Best regards

David Kalnischkies

¹ ironically, I think list (aka finger) is 99% of the valid uses

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