Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

["Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <jackyf@debian.org>]

On 2011-04-27 19:54, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> > > I hereby request comments on changing APT to pre-depend on
> > > ${shlibs:Depends}.
> > 
> > >         When we upload a new version of APT, depending on a newer
> > >         library version (due to new symbols, whatever), and APT gets
> > >         unpacked before the library, the system's ability to upgrade is
> > >         broken, unless you fix it manually via calls to dpkg.
> > 
> > First, this statement is not true because other package managers exist.
> > 
> > Second, why the APT's ability to upgrade is broken under these
> > conditions? Unless I'm missing something, the upgrade cannot be
> > started in the middle of another upgrade [1].

> The system's ability to upgrade without involving dpkg is broken if a
> newer version of APT is unpacked via dpkg. 

Thanks, I read that already above, and that do not (yet) address my two
points.

> > And, "I'll upload if there is no strong objection" is probably
> > void, because Debian policy requires consensus, not a nonexistance of a
> > strong objection.
> No. We *should* require consensus. The only way to force a change
> against the maintainer's will is tech-ctte or a GR. We do not have a
> clear decision in the APT team yet, though, as mvo is not here
> currently.

I wonder what's the point of a discussion then if it has zero effect on
the decision.

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Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com
C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer