Bug#129629: Not really distributing sources
Hmm... I haven't seen this on any Potato installations I've done... If I
just go through with the defaults, I get the 3 standard lines (http.us,
non-us, security)... Of course, usually I edit by hand, which renders
the whole argument moot.
As for "reading the whole thread before I rant"... My first message to
RMS was a reply made to his bug report, before I got your reply on the
lists... Maybe b.d.o is getting backlogged... The second one (the
"rant") was perhaps a bit heated, but it was a response more or less
directly to RMS, and his tone. It was CC'd to the bug, because I still
felt it was relevant.
And I still do feel that this is all relevant. Rant, or no rant, I
don't see how the distribution method needs to be dumbed down (and waste
bandwidth) for the sake of people who can't find the source when it's
right under their noses.
Should we be patching every http and ftp client in Debian so that it
offers easier access to the source too? ("I see that you're downloading
a deb for foopackage. Would you like me to heuristically search the
archive and see if I can find the source for you too?")
Bah. To me, it's about software the way people want it, not about
forcing the source down people's throats. To those who want it, it's
there, and that's great, but for binary-only installations (A good 99%
of them, I'd wager, not counting kernel source, which is a binary
package), it's a waste of bandwidth and time to have Sources.gz being
pulled from the mirrors for every Packages.gz.
... Adam Conrad
-----Original Message-----
From: Joey Hess [mailto:joey@silk.kitenet.net] On Behalf Of Joey Hess
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:57 PM
To: Adam Conrad
Cc: 129629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#129629: Not really distributing sources
Adam Conrad wrote:
> And the Debian project makes sources available via apt. What they
> haven't done in the past (and it looks like you might win on this one
> anyway, as much as I think it's a bad idea) is force people in
> pay-per-bit dialup connections to download Sources.gz for every
> distribution section every time they run "apt-get update"... People
can
> figure this out on their own. If it were set up like that by default,
> I'd be betting Jason would get TONNES of bug reports from European
users
> to the effect of "stop wasting my bandwidth with your crazy default
> configuration!"...
No, as has been said if you'd bother to read the full thread before
ranting, that is the default for debian installs done with base-config,
and nobody has complained. It's been like this since potato or earlier.
--
see shy jo
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