OK, it's downloading from verisim now. Maybe Wichert's system didn't like the dynamic IP of my laptop's radio modem. If you look through your logs, Wichert, I'm the connect from ricochet.net. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP bruce@debian.org NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502