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Bug#468765: security support termination announcements are "too proud"

On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 05:01:16AM -0500, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> Le March 1, 2008 04:03:28 am Frank Lichtenheld, vous avez écrit :
> > On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 03:47:27AM -0500, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> > > Since Red Hat releases at least each 3 years, that means Red Hat commits
> > > to supporting its "oldstables" for at least 4 years, which is much more
> > > than 1 year.
> > >
> > > IMO, more than 4 years is too much. But comparing to that, it's hard to
> > > be proud of under 1 year. IMO it's OK, but not more.
> >
> > Comparing a commercial distro with expensive support contracts and a
> > community distro doesn't make sense at all...
> Perhaps, but then what about openSUSE (about 1.5 years), Ubuntu (1 year), 
> Ubuntu LTS (4.5 years) and CentOS (more than 4 years)? I can't compare with 
> Gentoo, and then we get to Slackware (which I don't know about). So in 
> general, Debian is worst than others.

We could probably discuss more about any of them (e.g. that Ubuntu main
is not really comparable to Debian main). In the end it comes down to
the fact that supporting a Debian release for the time they do is
something the current security team and the stable release managers
can be proud of.

> > Either way, I don't think that debian-www is the right place to discuss
> > this. I would suggest debian-project or debian-publicity.
> I'm convinced that there's no reason to be proud, so I see no need to discuss 
> it, unless you're confident that Debian should be proud. It can be removed 
> anyway on the grounds that our users don't need to know whether the project 
> is proud.

I disagree, so obviously there is something to discuss. If you want to
continue with that feel free to do so in an appropriate forum.

(And just for the record: When I first read that announcement I was also
a bit irritated by that sentence and thought it sounded too much like a
commercial press release. But after you forced me to think about it more
I'm now quite happy with it :)

Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
www: http://www.djpig.de/

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