Sorry, I'm not sure which is the right list ... Aptitude got stuck timing out on security.debian.org, so I asked <quote src="terminal"> eddy@whorl:eddy$ ping security.debian.org PING security.debian.org (194.109.137.218): 56 data bytes --- security.debian.org ping statistics --- 155 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss </quote> and the news appears to be bad. Eddy.