Re: Women's participation chart
Ehm, wrong footnote numbers -_-
Here correct version.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:47:10PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> > Really great stuff! Thanks for doing this. Is there more information?
> There's not a specific web or wiki page on it - the job on male contributors' statistics isn't
> started, yet - but I can speak about it and give you some ref.
> As you know, Margarita Manterola has created some statistics about female
> presence in Debian. The first goal in making that it was trying to understand
> if the DW Mentoring Program was successful in the previous years and what we
> can do as group in the interest of female users/developers in Debian.
> We had some discussion   on those statistics on debian-women ML.
> Marga's statistics was the first step, but we're not able to try conclusions
> from them without some general data about the expected number of
> women in a FLOSS project (to see if there's a specific lack of women in
> Debian). Or maybe with data about numbers of male
> contributors (to see if the classic imbalance between male and female
> contributors is on expected values or not).
> I think the second choice could be the best, because if we try to compare our
> data about female contributors with general FLOSS data on female contributors,
> we need to consider the research method and other general condition (like
> sample,etc.) of the other study (in order to make a
> correct comparison).
> We need some others data to make a comparative analysis.
> So, last week we had a IRC meeting  in which we decided to proceed in this
> direction: we will form a specific group (formed by me and Anne Ghisla) to
> compile some statistics on male contributors in Debian. We will start on this
> work soon.
> First of all, we need to evaluate the pratical side of the job: Marga promised
> to give us some hints :). We (me and Anna) haven't any official role in
> Debian (i.e. we're not DD or DM) so I don't think we can have access to db to
> parse data about contributors: this can be a problem. :)
> So the goals would be:
> 1. improve Debian statistics about contributors
> 1.1 create statistics on male contributors
> 1.2 improve statistics on female contributors to track non DD/DM
> A great problem, IMHO, is tracking non DD/DM contributors: they are completely
> invisible because they often use a sponsor to upload or commit (not in l10n teams, for example: I'm not a DD/DM but I commit by myself on Debian website).
> Maybe we can parse alioth groups and wiki db.
> 2. comparative analysis between
> - Debian male and female contributors
> - Debian female contributors and $other_distro female contributors
> - Debian female contributors and FLOSS in general female numbers
> I've searched a little about other distros' statistics: it seems they haven't
> numbers on female contributors. I've only found an Ubuntu Census Survey 
> that's not gender-related and not very interesting cause the sample is build
> not only from developers but also from users (it's mainly based on devel ML
> but also on users' forums). In this survey the women percentage is 2.4%.
> More interesting, I think, are the FLOSS-POLS studies. 
> Ok, this is a general idea about the statistics_stuff. Not implemented yet,
> we've discussed on it and we are on the way to start it.
> So, if someone else want join the Statistic Strike Force...:)
>  http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2010/08/msg00022.html
>  http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2010/08/msg00038.html
>  http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2010/09/msg00029.html
>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCensusSurvey
>  http://www.flosspols.org/index.php