Re: moving the wiki content?
2009/7/8 Meike Reichle <meike@debian.org>:
> Hi Lisi
>
>> In view of the recent thread, I think that now is a bad time, from my point of
>> view, to take away anything from the women's space. We are, after all,
>> hardly made to feel welcome on the official site.
>
> I respectfully disagree, on certain points actually:
>
> 1) I've never felt that we weren't welcome on the official site. In fact
> D-W is one of only very few Debian sub-projects that actually have a
> someting.debian.*org* domain. Most sub-projects only have a
> something.debian.net one. I see that as a rather strong and public
> approval and support of debian-women from the project's side and I am very
> happy about that.
In a list and irc manner I have rarely felt unwelcome within the
Linux community and not yet within the Debian part of it.
However in the light of the Ruby crap I feel it is even more important
to keep the women sub-project going.
>
> 2) I don't agree with the "taking away". Looking at
> http://women.debian.org the wiki is currently inaccessible, so if anyone
> is taking away anything anything at all it's us, by hiding some very good
> Howtos and explanations (including Marga's famous diagram :)) from people
> who could find it very useful. When looking for general packaging etc
> information wiki.d.o is a logical place to go and I think that by putting
> our stuff there we make it accessible to a broad audience again which is a
> good thing. If you are worried what will happen with it once it's there
> the obvious thing to do would be to subscribe to the pages once they've
> been created and keep an eye on them.
I think I am happier if we have our own 'quarter' where we can make it
absolutely clear
certain topics stuff are not welcome, nor tolerated and at least have
the expectation that we won't need to waste our time
explaining alternative viewpoints to saddos like the CouchDB and Rails
authors. ( I'm sorry I've only just picked up on the news about
that event and I am trying to be as polite as I can be about it. I'm
just really angry right now.)
>
> 3) I really don't like to think in terms on "ours" and "theirs" or more
> general "us" and "them" when it comes to D-W and Debian itself. Debian is
> our "parent-project" (in lack of a better word) and not some kind of
> adversary that we should protect our stuff from.
> We use their infrastructure, they host our site, our wiki, and our mailing
> list, we are part of Debian! Moreover, we do what we do because we think
> that Debian benefits from it, we work for Debian and not against it.
I am happy to be a part of the Debian project - however small my part might be.
I am also more than happy to help keep up the women's subproject wiki
and web-pages going.
Regards
Lesley
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