Re: Awful article in Barrapunto
Hello,
All we men and women are aware of such nasty things. But, from my experience
those guys are aggressive when they feel that we are becoming stronger and
stronger and that we are each day more important. That is sign for me that
we have to continue our work and that we should not be discouraged.
best wishes,
vedran Vucic
On Friday 21 July 2006 11:22, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> Barrapunto ( http://barrapunto.com/ ), one of the most important Spanish
> weblogs, the Spanish equivalent fo Slashdot, put the next article yesterday
> in their front page (I've translated it to english as accurately as I
> could):
>
>
> Anonymous Coward tells us: "Free Software does not get rid of the victimist
> discourse of feminist either. M. Molist publishes an article about a report
> of the Cambridge University [1] for the European Commission that seems to
> be as those gender studies [2] as fashionable as little rigorous. The
> sorrow is that a person so respected within the community of free software
> as Amaya Rodrigo [3] renders to this journalistic sensationalism. She says
> to "totally agree" with a report that assures that the free software
> "exacerbates/aggravates the hostile environment" [sic] agains women. She
> herself, afterwards, deny it ("Debian Women had a welcome in the
> community"). It is a pity to see how intelligent people dedicate themselves
> to promote a false and distorted vision of the same same community that has
> ket her learn all that she knows, as she herself admits.". We talked about
> that not long ago [4]. It must be clarified that this "gender" approach is
> strident, but is not shared by all feminists [5]. Other women, defenders of
> equality [6] and not of the discrimination nor of the quotas, have a very
> different point of view [7] about this matter of women and sciences.
>
>
> pobrecito hablador nos cuenta: «El software libre ya tampoco se libra del
> discurso victimista del feminismo. M. Molist publica un artículo sobre un
> informe de la Universidad de Cambridge [1] para la Comisión Europea que
> tiene toda la pinta de esos estudios de género [2] tan de moda como poco
> rigurosos. Lo lamentable es que una persona tan respetada dentro de la
> comunidad del software libre como es Amaya Rodrigo [3] se preste a este
> sensacionalismo periodístico. Dice estar "completamente de acuerdo" con un
> informe que asegura que la comunidad del software libre "exacerba el
> entorno hostil" [sic] contra las mujeres. Ella misma, un poco más abajo, lo
> desmiente ("Debian Women tuvo una acogida fenomenal en la comunidad"). Es
> una pena ver cómo personas inteligentes se dediquen a promover una visión
> falsa y distorsionada de la propia comunidad que le ha permitido aprender
> todo lo que sabe, como ella reconoce.» Hace poco hablamos de ello [4]. Hay
> que aclarar que este enfoque "de género" es el más estridente, pero que no
> lo comparten [5] todas las feministas. Otras mujeres, partidarias de la
> igualdad [6] y no de la discriminación ni de las cuotas, tienen un punto de
> vista muy distinto [7] sobre este asunto de las mujeres y las ciencias.
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.elpais.es/articulo/portada/Cambridge/denuncia/hostilidad/mujeres
>/sector/tecnologico/elpcibpor/20060720elpcibpor_2/Tes/ [2]
> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estudios_culturales
> [3] http://people.debian.org/~amaya/
> [4] http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/25/1014208
> [5] http://www.gendercenter.org/sommers.htm
> [6] http://biblioweb.sindominio.net/pensamiento/elisabeth_badinter.html
> [7]
> http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_development/previous_issues/art
>icles/0560/parity_as_a_goal_sparks_bitter_battle/(parent)/12096
>
>
> I know neither Barrapunto nor Slashdot are especially friendly to women, in
> fact they're usually very mysoginist and hostile, but I got very angry when
> I read that partial and unfair text. It's a pity that men are keeping such
> hostility and agresiveness and not even becoming aware of it.
>
> Miry
>
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