Am 2004-08-02 20:28:01, schrieb Helen Faulkner:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> So I've spent most of today battling my way through the New Maintainers
> Guide, trying to work out how to package some very simple things. I
> *think* I'm making headway...
>
> I've been reading various pieces of documentation/policy/guidelines in
> my travels, and I keep finding things like this, from
> http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-advocate:
>
> "There is a checklist of what a NM has to do. Basically, he needs a GPG
he = The NewMaintainer
> key signed by a developer, he has to answer some Philosophy and
he = The NewMaintainer
> Procedures questions and in the Tasks and Skills test he has to show
he = The NewMaintainer
> that he has the experience to be a good Debian developer.
he = The NewMaintainer
> You should advocate someone when you think that he is ready to be a
he = The NewMaintainer
> developer -- when he has the required skills and when he has been
he = The NewMaintainer
> involved with the project for some time. Just ask yourself if you want
> to see him in Debian -- if you think he should be a Debian developer
him = The NewMaintainer
he = The NewMaintainer
> then go ahead and recommend him.
him = The NewMaintainer
> The exact steps are like this: you agree with a prospective developer to
> recommend him and he signs up. Then you have to go to this site, click
him = The NewMaintainer
he = The NewMaintainer
> on his name in the listing of applicants, go to the "advocate this
his = The NewMaintainer
> application" page, put in your Debian login and press the 'submit'
> button. You will then receive an e-mail with an auth key which you have
> to return GPG/PGP signed. When this is done, the prospective developer
> will get an AM assigned who goes through the NM steps with him."
him = The NewMaintainer
> Count the "he"s. I get 13. This doesn't seem to be, based on the stuff
> I've been flicking through, particularly unusual. And people wonder why
> women find debian unfriendly to them! It's certainly discouraging to me.
Is there a FEMALE version of "NewMaintainer"
Do you want to rewite it ?
Like:
____ ( 'stdin' ) _____________________________________________________
/
| "There is a checklist of what a NM has to do. Basically, the NM
| needs a GPG key signed by a developer, the NM has to answer some
| Philosophy and Procedures questions and in the Tasks and Skills test
| the NM has to show that the NM he has the experience to be a good
| Debian developer. You should advocate someone when you think that
| the NM is ready to be a developer -- when the NM has the required
| skills and when th NM has been involved with the project for some
| time. Just ask yourself if you want to see the NM in Debian -- if
| you think the NM should be a Debian developer then go ahead and
| recommend the NM. The exact steps are like this: you agree with a
| prospective developer to recommend the NM and the NM signs up. Then
| you have to go to this site, click on the NM name in the listing of
| applicants, go to the "advocate this application" page, put in your
| Debian login and press the 'submit' button. You will then receive
| an e-mail with an auth key which you have to return GPG/PGP signed.
| When this is done, the prospective developer will get an AM assigned
| who goes through the NM steps with th NM."
\______________________________________________________________________
Can you be happy with it ?
I think, it is brandamaged...
> I'm sure that this is not _intended_ to be unfriendly, or even sexist.
> Maybe the people who wrote it, don't even realise why using such
> language is a problem. But it can't be that hard to automatically go
> through the webpages, search for occurances of "he" and change them into
> "she/he", and change "him" into "him/her" etc. Does anyone on this
> mailing list doubt that such things do matter?
>
> What can we do to get this sort of thing fixed? Preferably quickly :)
> I am happy to write to people personally and ask that they fix up such
> language when I see it, especially if anyone can suggest who to write
> to. But maybe there is a better way to approach the problem.
>
> Helen.
Greetings
Michelle
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