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Bug#833090: ITP: magic-wormhole -- Securely and simply transfer data between computers



On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 06:52:03PM -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 02 2016, Fredrik Alströmer <falstro@excu.se> wrote:
> > I would object slightly to calling it "securely", from what I can tell by a
> > quick glance at the code, the data is relayed through the authors private
> > server. The pass phrases seem to be fairly limited (chosen from a 512-entry
> > dictionary iiuc), simply spamming the the public endpoint with passwords
> > should net you something cool sooner or later.
> 
> Hi, Fredrik.  Thanks for the comments.
> 
> The fact that data is relayed through the author's private server should
> not compromise integrity of the data, since the data is actually
> encrypted end-to-end.  The package also includes the server program
> itself so users can set up their own server rather than use the one
> provided by the author.
> 
> The upstream author has attempted to explain the compromises involved in
> using relatively low-entropy password for the initial key exchange:
> 
> http://www.lothar.com/%7Ewarner/MagicWormhole-PyCon2016.pdf
> https://youtu.be/dgnikoiau68
> 
> > Also, as a comment in the code suggests, the server might disappear at any
> > time so it's not intended for wide adoption.
> 
> My intention is to put the package in experimental, so that we can gain
> deployment experience.
> 
> I don't think that any of the concerns that you express should preclude
> us putting the package into experimental.

I'd go even further and say this should be shipped as part of regular
Debian releases, ie. just push it to unstable.

We still ship FTP daemons that serve files without passwords and use
cleartext by default.

Jamie, I'd be happy to co-maintain this!

A.

-- 
Semantics is the gravity of abstraction.

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