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Bug#597899: ITP: yii-framework -- High-performance component-based PHP framework



On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:40:39 László Böszörményi wrote:
>  Arrgh, too bad. You have a big jug of beer of your choice from me
> when we meet again.

Thanks. :) 


> >>  Would you like to (co-)maintain it? You tidied it, but didn't add
> >> 
> >> yourself to the Uploaders field. Do you use it somewhere?
> > 
> > I do not want to co-maintain it because I do not use it. I needed Yii to
> > evaluate prospective software that I was considering to package.
> 
>  Which is that software, if its name is public?

It is not suitable for Debian (due to bundled proprietary pieces) so I'm 
trying to avoid advertising it but I'm happy to disclose everything in private 
email...


>  Well, I've mixed feelings. Sure, PHP is not the most structured nor a
> modern computer language. Read about the glitches[1][2].
> Then read about how many developers and sites use it for web pages;
> statistics reveal it has a 82% percent domination[3][4].
> Facebook told to run on PHP, of course with their engine that was open
> sourced[5]. Then the original developers of PHP is refactoring the
> whole code base under PHPNG[6].
> As such, it's a moving target and still has some potential. We will
> see that the upcoming languages like Rust[7] holds for us.

What a nice collection of interesting articles. :)  Thank you.

I reckon we should be careful to think about technology as viable merely 
because there are many who use it... I mean using this logic Windows must be a 
good thing because it is on many people' computers... But we do know that gems 
are sometimes so well hidden that it takes effort to find/identify/recognise 
them...

Surely there are examples where something nice is made out of poor technology. 
But Facebook would be hardly a good example as they have all resources one can 
only dream about and it is no surprise when unlimited resources make work 
something otherwise doomed to fail...

I am sceptical about PHP as I've just learned how hard it is to package 
software which is using symlink unfriendly dereferencing __FILE__ to locate 
its components in relative folders... I doubt I've ever seen code uglier than 
written in PHP (perhaps except Java which can be very competitive in that 
regards)... I'm still new to PHP and I just have not very good first 
impressions but I really know next to nothing about the language...

Thanks again for the links.

-- 
Regards,
 Dmitry Smirnov.

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