Bug#748383: [openstack-dev] Fwd: Fwd: Debian people don't like bash8 as a project name (Bug#748383: ITP: bash8 -- bash script style guide checker)

Hi Thomas,

I felt a couple sentences here were reasonable to add (more than “don’t care” from before).

I understand your concerns here, and I totally get what you’re driving at, but in the packaging world wouldn’t this make sense to call it "python-bash8"? Now the binary, I can agree (for reasons outlined) should probably not be named ‘bash8’, but the name of the “command” could be separate from the packaging / project name.

Beyond a relatively minor change to the resulting “binary” name [sure bash-tidy, or whatever we come up with], is there something more that really is awful (rather than just silly) about the naming? I just don’t see how if we don’t namespace collide on the executable side, how there can be any real confusion (python-bash8, sure pypi is a little different) over what is being installed.

Cheers,

Morgan

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Morgan Fainberg

From: Thomas Goirand zigo@debian.org
Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: June 12, 2014 at 15:19:00
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, 748383@bugs.debian.org 748383@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: Fwd: Debian people don't like bash8 as a project name (Bug#748383: ITP: bash8 -- bash script style guide checker)

On 06/12/2014 02:01 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
> I'd hate to think what these guys think of firefox, grub, thunderbird,
> pidgin, zope, git, mercurial, etc, etc.

I don't see what point you're trying to make here. Firefox & Thunderbird
were renamed because of trademark issues with the Mozilla foundation,
and Debian (and the maintainers of these packages) still don't like
renaming these packages. For Git, for a while, the package name was
already taken by something else. As for Pidgin, Zope & Mercurial, I'm
not aware of any issues we had...

All this being said, I don't care so much myself. Yet this is a nuisance
for me because I may have to deal with such bad naming. Either I ignore
recommendations from other DDs, and it makes me feel bad in front of all
the Debian project, or I get to deal with all sorts of renaming issues.
So it'd be nice if upstream cared...

Also, it's truth bash8 is a very poor name, which can be very confusing
for our users. Something like bash-tidy or bashtidy would have been much
better (even with an 8 at the end...).

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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