Bug#729203: CTTE and reasonable solutions
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 07:13:57PM -0500, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
> On 2014-02-03 18:21:34, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 05:58:48PM -0500, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
>...
> >> One of the proposals on the table is to bring back ffmpeg, at least as a
> >> program, possibly as a library. You seem to be saying that is "insane",
> >>...
> >
> > I would appreciate if you would in the future refrain from wrongly
> > claiming that I said something, when I did in fact state the opposite:
> >
> > <-- snip -->
> >
> > If all you expect to happen after "apt-get install ffmpeg" is that
> > there is an ffmpeg binary that is using the ffmpeg libraries, then
> > this might be doable.
> >
> > <-- snip -->
>
> I am refering to your position which you restate below....
No.
What you were claiming was that I would have called it "insane" bringing
back ffmpeg *at least as a program*.
This claim is false.
The value of having only the ffmpeg programs without the libraries would
be very limited.
And it is clear that any statement "ffmpeg is back in Debian" would be
considered a bad joke by most people interested in libav and/or ffmpeg
if it would turn out that only the programs would be in Debian and not
the libraries.
But contrary to what you were claiming, the word I used was not
"insane", I said it would be "doable".
Insane would be attempting to have both the libav and the ffmpeg
libraries in Debian in parallel.
>...
> >> What's your proposal to fix the problems with libav mentionned in this
> >> thread? What's your response to the claims that ffmpeg is a superset of
> >> libav and that libav is lagging in development? If ffmpeg is technically
> >> superior and compatible with libav, why shouldn't we package it?
> >
> > All I am saying is that suggestiong along the lines of having both the
> > libav and ffmpeg libraries and then switching between them through
> > "apt-get install" is insane.
>
> I do not see any answer to the technical questions I have asked above.
>...
There is no point in a technical discussion between you and me whether
libav or ffmpeg is better - even if I'd agree that wouldn't change
anything.
If you think ffmpeg is superior to libav and should therefore be shipped
in jessie instead of libav, you have to discuss that with the Debian
multimedia maintainers.
And if you don't come to an agreement with them, the Debian Constitution
describes in detail your options for having their decision overridden.
The only thing I am saying is that having both libraries in the archive
would not be a reasonable option for the reasons I've already explained.
cu
Adrian
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