Bug#403619: [pmladek@suse.cz: Fwd: Re: Marcin Miłkowski: License of Languagetool libs]
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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>
To: Daniel Naber <naber@danielnaber.de>, Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Marcin Miłkowski: License of Languagetool libs
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:17:26 +0200
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Hi,
JFYI, Marcin has just answered it, see the attached mail.
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Content-Description: Marcin Miłkowski <marcin.milkowski@gmail.com>: Re: Marcin Miłkowski: License of Languagetool libs
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:41:10 +0200
From: Marcin Miłkowski <marcin.milkowski@gmail.com>
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To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Marcin Miłkowski: License of Languagetool libs
Petr Mladek pisze:
> This is an enquiry e-mail via http://marcinmilkowski.pl from: Petr
> Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>
>
> Hello Marcin,
>
> I have sent the bellow message also to "Daniel Naber" and "Rene
> Engelhard" .
>
> Unfortunately, I was not able to find your E-mail address. It seems
> that milek_pl@users.sourceforge.net is not valid.
It is blocked to the number of spam mails I get.
> The lincese-related discussion is usually sensitive, so I did not
> want to solve it publicly in the bug tracker.
>
> I wanted to update the OpenOffice_org-anguagetool package for
> openSUSE to the version 0.9.9. Unfortunately, it includes new jar
> files with trange lincese.
>
> Could you please help me to resolve the troubles?
I'll help.
>
> I added Rene into CC because he is solving similar problems for
> Debian, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403619
>
>
> activation.jar: ===============
>
> Includes LICENSE.txt that mentions CDDL, Version 1.0. This license
> requires distribution of the source code:
>
> --- cut --- 3. Distribution Obligations.
>
> 3.1. Availability of Source Code.
>
> Any Covered Software that You distribute or otherwise make available
> in Executable form must also be made available in Source Code form
> and that Source Code form must be distributed only under the terms of
> this License. You must include a copy of this License with every copy
> of the Source Code form of the Covered Software You distribute or
> otherwise make available. You must inform recipients of any such
> Covered Software in Executable form as to how they can obtain such
> Covered Software in Source Code form in a reasonable manner on or
> through a medium customarily used for software exchange. --- cut ---
>
> I think that important is the last part: "in a reasonable manner on
> or through a medium customarily used for software exchange"
>
> => you distribute the software via internet => it might be enough to
> mention the link to the sources. We might want to distribute it with
> openSUSE on DVD => we would need to bundle it into the source
> package.
>
> Do you know where to get the source?
>
> It seems to be a jar provided by Sun. I searched it there and found
> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?RegistrationDomain=CDS-CDS_Developer-Anonymous&LicenseUUID=mtrACUFBzm4AAAEYkcI5AXh_&cnum=&ProductID=nb3ACUFBmWMAAAEYhBc5AXt.&ProductRegistration=0&evsref=&sln=&ProductUUID=nb3ACUFBmWMAAAEYhBc5AXt.&ProductUUID=nb3ACUFBmWMAAAEYhBc5AXt.&ProductUUID=nb3ACUFBmWMAAAEYhBc5AXt.&LoginForm_Login=Continue+ť;
> Unfortunately, it is under another license that looks strange as
> well.
Yes, this is a Sun library. It is included in JDK 6 but we want to have
backwards compatibility for Mac OS X that doesn't have any decent Java 5. I
think it is already on LGPL in OpenJDK (as part of JAXB), so it's just a
matter of getting the activation.jar from the OpenJDK (or building it using
OpenJDK sources). I would simply put a link to OpenJDK or to JAXB, as the
sources are widely available, and distributing them along LT make little
sense.
>
> bliki-3.0.3.jar ===============
>
> I expect that it comes from http://matheclipse.org/en/Bliki_in_a_JAR
> => it is under GPL => sources must be available as well (similar
> approach like with CDDL). Unfortunately, I haven't found them for the
> version 3.0.3
This is not distributed with LT. It's just needed to build experimental
code (under /dev) and to run community website. Don't bother with it.
>
> jaxb-api.jar: =============
>
> jaxb-api.jar includes LICENSE.txt that mentions CDDL, Version 1.0 =>
> sources must be available.
>
> I have found something similar at https://jaxb.dev.java.net/.
>
> The MANIFEST.MF file mentions version 2.1. The above page offers
> 2.1.12 => the minor version is unclear. Well, I am afraid that you
> use different build at all.
I use JAXB from Java 6, this is only for backwards compatibility. Get a
jar from OpenJDK if you care about clear licences.
>
> jaxb-impl.jar =============
>
> Not many information included. I expect that it commens from the same
> sources like jaxb-api.jar but ...
The same applies. It's JAXB and OpenJDK should contain that.
>
> jsr173_1.0_api.jar: ===================
>
> I expect that it commes from https://sjsxp.dev.java.net/ => it is
> under CDDL or GPL => the sources must be available on the same medium
The same applies. This is used to support JAXB. Part of Java 6.
>
>
> loomchild-util-1.3.6.jar, segment-1.1.20.jar:
> =============================================
>
> I expect that these two are covered by the included
> segment-license.txt
Yes, and loomchild-util was already removed from our source tree as it
introduced some confusion among Ubuntu (?) packagers.
> I am sorry that I bother you. I love your software and would like to
> make it available for our users.
:) Thanks for asking and for investigating the licensing issues. I hate
reviewing licenses :/
Marcin
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
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