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Bug#377777: elisa and debian



2007/2/13, Loïc Minier <lool@via.ecp.fr>:
tags 377777 + pending
stop

On Tue, Feb 13, 2007, Arnaud Quette wrote:
> but you only consider the etch release there...

 ... Yeah like -- you know -- the release we're trying to ... err ...
 release ...

oh, that's the point I was missing.

> not relevant for etch, but you don't consider:
> - the buildd and compilation/arch problem that can be faced and
> solved, without waiting for etch to be released,
> - the possibility for others to audit and help to improve the package,
> - the possibility for sid derived distro to use all that.

 And this can all happen after etch.  I don't care about pushing
 packages for use in derived distros; I'm not participating in such a
 distro.

 So my priority should be working on a clean package so that it can be
 synced to Ubuntu?  Thanks, but no thanks.

 You can't imagine how it pisses me off to read from a DD that I should
 focus on packages which can not be included in the next Debian release
 so that Ubuntu can pull them.  Not only is this distracting me from
 other Debian tasks, but it's also encouraging me to stop working on --
 say -- closing RC bugs, for the benefit of $concurrent_distro.  And to
 top it off, a *DD* is doing this, someone who should know how painfully
 slow the release process already is.

seems you got me wrong Loïc.
First you should take a fresh beer to calm down a bit ;-)
next, you only focused on the 3rd thing I've stated (remember the 2
first! not for etch but only etch+1, ok, but still for Debian or
upstream).

you know what pisses me off with DD having your attitude, it's that
they think the battle is FLOSS against FLOSS and distros against
distros.
Yeah, a great deal for redmond guy, continue, you're on the good
way... to nowhere!

And finally:
- etch release doesn't stop me from uploading to sid and finding ftbts
and other problems for new software versions (even things that can hit
etch), while I'm not at rc bug killing.
- I'm the kind of DD who has made a partnership with an awful
industrial (MGE) that is supporting Debian (good) but also awfully
other distros (bad bad)
- I'm the kind of DD who is also an upstream in many areas, and who
like to see things well done from the top (upstream) to the bottom
(distros and user experience), whatever the distro is, the only point
is to be free...
- if there was no blocker, a simple upload wasn't worth such a mail!

Quite frankly guy, you aren't shooting at the right target... and
you're pissing on your shoes!
And to cry a bit louder, you should have cc'ed -devel, and possibly
fwd'ed to -private about this traitor DD!

Arnaud (now, I'll take my break to calm myself down!)
--
Linux / Unix Expert - MGE UPS SYSTEMS - R&D Dpt
Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
OpenSource Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/



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