The ltsp-utils package contains ltspadmin and ltspcfg (and others). These utilities are still needed for LTSP-4.x, and that version of LTSP is going to be around for a while, as equivelant functionality is added to MueKow LTSP. I've got a few changes I want to make to ltspadmin and ltspcfg, and it would be really good knowing that those changes will make it into the debian packages. Jim McQuillan jam@Ltsp.org