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Bug#327081: ITP: rpmstrap -- bootstrap a basic RPM-based system



On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 06:00:07PM +0000, Sam Hart wrote:
> Ok, I went back to the source of the problem. Back in Feb 2005 there 
> was some development done in IRC between myself and another 
> contributor. [...] I have since 
> confronted him on this and he admits that the code was from "an 
> ancient version of debootstrap" (his words) [...]

So good, we're agreed that debootstrap code has made it's way into
rpmstrap.

> The patch accounted for 23 lines of code and essentially stubbed out 

Well, I count some 70 odd lines that're pretty much an exact match to
debootstrap from earlier this year, so I suspect that isn't all of it.

> Not all of this code remained in current rpmstrap svn, however that 
> code which did remain has now been replaced.

So, if your strategy is really going to be "I shall do whatever it takes
to avoid obeying debootstrap's license" you'll need to keep looking
to work out what the deal is with the rest of the code copied from
debootstrap, and probably go to some effort to make sure that you've
got a clean chain of development.

I've no idea why you'd want to do that, when complying with debootstrap's
license and being able to copy whatever you like is just a matter of
including the copyright notice, but hey.

> Finally, even though my original design goal was to clone the 
> interface to debootstrap to provide familiarity to rpmstrap's users, 
> and even though saying that cloning such an interface is a "bad thing" 

What are you talking about? There's nothing bad about cloning things --
that's the whole _POINT_ of licensing things freely.

> would make projects such as GNU Nano invalid, I have gone ahead and 
> changed /some/ of the interface simply because I don't have the time 
> to squabble over such childish things. 

Well, you're spending a lot of time squabbling instead of just adding
a copyright notice.

> If there is any further code found in rpmstrap or any other project I 
> may be working on, it seems to me that a mature way to deal with it 
> would be to contact me directly rather than attacking me in public.

It seems odd that you're complaining that I mailed in public half a
day after I sent you mail directly. Less odd that you're happy to be in
-devel when you think you're right, and change your mind when you find
you're wrong, but hey. 

Personally, I would've thought it'd be polite to say "hey, we're creating
this rpmstrap tool that's kinda like your debootstrap thing but for rpms,
check it out!" too.

> I am actually a very reasonable man, and if any mistake is found it
> will not have been out of malice. Colour me unimpressed.

"Color", dude. Make the whine your own.

Cheers,
aj

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