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Bug#152631: ITP: grokking-the-gimp -- Grokking the GIMP is the online version of Carey Bunks' GIMP tutorial book.



Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@bluecherry.net> writes:
> > Now a few questions for debian-devel:
> > 
> > 1) The license.  Is the Open Publication License acceptable for Debian?
> >    (http://www.opencontent.org/)
> 
> Depends entirely on what options, if any, are exercised.  I cannot make
> any determinations of freeness based on an ambiguous license with non-free
> terms which may or may not apply.  If none of them are exercised, I am
> reasonably sure it is DFSG-free.  debian-legal may have more
opinions.

As far as I can see it should be DFSG-free.  But I am no native
English speaker and have no experience with this kind of thing.  I'll
check with debian-legal.

> > 2) The source.  Grokking the GIMP is a HTML version of a book written in
> >    LaTeX.  I have asked upstream for permission to package the HTML
> >    version, but I have not yet asked whether the LaTeX is available, but
> >    I think it isn't.  Is that a problem?
> 
> Sortof.  If errors are found, patches can be sent upstream if the source
> is included.  Also someone will scream DFSG violation if the LaTeX isn't
> present since that is the source code.  Generated HTML is sometimes very
> messy, so I can see technical reasons for wanting the source..

I'll ask upstream.  If Carey Bunks releases the source, all the
better.  If he doesn't (and I don't think he will, because the book is
copyrighted by his publisher), we'll have to live without.

> > 3) The GIFs.  "Grokking the GIMP" includes about 28 MB of GIFs.  Should
> >    I convert them to PNG, as there are patent issues with GIFs?  The
> >    license allows modifications, and I think using PNGs might also save
> >    some space.
> 
> Patent covers making, not viewing.  Converting them would be a political
> statement, but is not required as a matter of laws.

I'll probably leave it how it is, then.  Converting the GIFs to PNG
may be part of a future release.

> > 4) The name.  The book's title is "Grokking the GIMP"; thus the most
> >    obvious package name would be "grokking-the-gimp".  Renaming it to
> >    "gimp-grokking" would not reflect the original title so well, but it
> >    would be closer to the other gimp packages on the package list.
> 
> book-grokking-the-gimp or doc- or something maybe?  Else leave the name
> alone.

No, I was thinking of a name near to "gimp*" in alphabetical order,
like "gimp-grokking", so that the package shows up near the gimp.  But
I think adding it as "suggested" package to the gimp is the better
solution.

> 
> 
> > 5) The GIMP documentation.  Do you think it would be useful to include
> >    "Grokking the GIMP" in the GIMP's help menu if it is installed?  I
> >    have not yet asked the GIMP maintainer whether it is feasible or
> >    whether he would want to do that.  What do you think?
> 
> Not necessary, but it could be cool.

Maybe I'll do it in a future version.  I'll see what people want first.

> > 6) The size.  "Grokking the GIMP" is a 26 MB .tar.gz.  This is a little
> >    hard for people on 56K.  Would it make sense to create another
> >    package with graphics in a lower quality?  Or would this just be
> >    bloating Debian?
> 
> As one of those 56k people, I'll manage.

Ok, you asked for it :-)

> =)  Just don't upload a new
> version every two weeks if you can help it, ne?

I'm on 64K.  So I won't.

Thanks for your answers.

-- 
Aaron Isotton

http://www.isotton.com/
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