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Re: Environmental impact of Debian's AI usage



On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 at 20:00, Amin Bandali <bandali@debian.org> wrote:
Aigars Mahinovs wrote:

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> There are also lot of other, very much sustainable datacenters. Even the
> big players, like Google invest a lot in developing the green grid in the
> areas where their data centers are located -
> https://datacenters.google/operating-sustainably/ . Sure, they are not yet
> at 100%, but they are funding much more buildout of green energy and grid
> than they are consuming.
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"Google Admits It Missed Its Climate Goals — Again — Because of AI"
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/google-missed-climate-goals-ai

>From Google's own 2026 Environmental Report:

| [...] reaching our climate moonshot is getting harder.  Growing our
| data center footprint to build out the infrastructure needed to make
| AI as helpful as possible to everyone requires energy and resources.
| Like everyone in our industry, we experienced a surge in electricity
| demand last year.  Our load grew 37% year-over-year -- a rate
| tempered by our AI-stack efficiencies.  Long waits to connect to
| the grid, fragmented markets, supply chain delays, and regulatory
| bottlenecks continue to slow down new carbon-free energy from coming
| online. We're working within energy systems that simply aren't clean
| enough or flexible enough yet.


Yes, that is *exactly* what I wrote. Google is not 100% green in their data center power sourcing, but they are investing *heavily* to bring up green energy as fast as humanly possible. Without those investements, these green energy systems would *not* have been financed or build. At the end of the day, there is is far more green energy production there *because* Google is using all it can get its hands on and is paying premium for it. Consumption *creates* green energy.

Without AI *and* big players driving sustainability there would have been *less* green energy on the grid today.

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Best regards,
    Aigars Mahinovs

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