Re: Proposal -- Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence (AI) Models

[Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>]

Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Proposal -- Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence (AI) Models"):
> Aigars, it would be a lot easier to have this conversation with you if you
> pay somewhat closer attention to what other people are really arguing.

This seems to be a CoC-approved way to say much the same thing as
the insulting message we read the other day. [1]

I don't condone that other poster's way of expressing themselves
there.  But it is important that we recognise that harsh words are not
the only form of abuxive conduct, nor of CoC violation.


We should also recognise as problematic patterns of mailing list
posting which are characterised by many of the following:
  * Posting very many messages
  * Not really properly reading what other people say
  * Arguing against misrepresentations of other peoples' positions
  * Repeating many similar points
  * Making spurious analogies and other spurious arguments

I realise that Debian has chosen to have almost no effective mailing
list moderation, and therefore we tolerate almost every kind and
quantity of bad behaviour.  So it seems likely that those of us who
participate here will see more of these messages.

But, I don't like it, and also I want to point out that there are
forms of abuse other than finally snapping and producing an outburst.

(While I'm here: deeds can also be abusive, even if they fall within a
maintainer's discretion and aren't forbidden by any formal policy.)


Oh, and: once again I agree with everything Russ has said.

Ian.

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