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Re: [RFC] Counter-Proposal -- Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence (AI) Models



On Thu, 8 May 2025, Simon Josefsson wrote:

>I don't think it is possible to separate firmware into things that are
>just for enabling of hardware compared to what is running on the main
>CPU.  Consider a non-free firmware blob for a future SoC CPU that
>includes camera functionality, it seems possible that would make use of
>some LLM model to have better face recognition for example.  Without
>disassembly (which may be illegal) we can't really know if this is part
>of the blob or not.

I wanted to express that: if the LLM is part of the firmware uploaded
to the SoC for camera functionality, then it is packaged as firmware
as a whole and only accessed through normal camera functions when the
user accesses the camers. It’s not packaged separately (just the model)
or available to other software on the system (removed from the camera
functionality).

But I agree that to make this distinction probably isn’t worth extra
headache (also my headache’s growing again…) so if nobody has got an
idea of how to express this well, I’d say let’s just remove all
mentions of non-free-firmware from the proposal, it can go with its
usual rules.

(In fact, my proposal comes from our normal rules, with a specific
understanding of these things in mind, anyway.)

bye,
//mirabilos
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