Re: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation
Hi,
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 11:20:50AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
[ Dates adjusted to represent the correct year ]
> Here is a detailed timeline of the messages in the lasst month:
>
> 2025-03-14 We formally provide the production key
> and ask for it to be isntalled.
> 2025-03-15 Ansgar sends us an obnoxious reply.
> 2025-03-15 Ian forwards Ansgar's reply to the Community Team.
> 2025-03-15 Joerg tells us "no".
> 2025-03-16 Sean reminds Joerg of our agreement and reconfirms
> that everything is as agreed, and clarifies a few things.
> 2025-03-16 Joerg complains (2 emails) that we didn't email them earlier
> about the work they said they wanted to do.
> 2025-03-17 Sean graciously apologises for not emailing ftpmaster earlier,
> and asks for a time estimate.
> 2025-03-17 Ian asks for immediate installation since ftpmaster not
> doing work that only they want done, should not be a blocker.
> 2025-03-19 Sean pings Joerg asking for a response.
> 2025-03-19 Joerg replies offering to do the work by the end of March.
> 2025-03-20 Sean agrees to this as a compromise, and restates technical info.
> 2025-03-20 Ian provides additional technical info and offers of support.
> 2025-03-26 Sean pings, asking "how is it going".
> 2025-03-26 Community Team apologises for not replying yet.
> 2025-04-01 Sean pings, asking for a new timeline.
2025-04-01: ansgar asks me to install dgit on fasolo to facilitate the
integration. While complicated by the fact that fasolo is not upgraded to
stable yet, it's installed the same morning (but not instantly).
Standing on the other side of the fence of another team that nearly
avoided an escalation: Given the amount of tickets in the DSA queue, I
understand the feeling that people think their wishes are not acted upon
quickly enough by their fellow volunteers. Which feels like gatekeeping,
but is also owed to some degree to the interests and time availability
of a small set of people - where for various reasons the work is not
easily shardable to the project.
A PR for dak would probably have gone a long way. I understand the
complexities with that, but to be fair, that was basically the point
ftp-master was making in response.
Kind regards
Philipp Kern
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