Re: On community and conflicts
Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> writes:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:29:12PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:53:22AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>> > Can we have a clear statement of what "directly affects people"?
>>
>> for those having lost people due to covid, hearing someone say
>> it's a hoax, is definitly painful. and this affects Debian directly:
>>
>> so far we know about one dead DM (yes, Debian Maintainer) and personally I
>> know several suffering from long covid.
>>
>> surprise: you're not invisble when you close your eyes.
>>
> Why don't you ask me about the people in my life who have been harmed by
> and who I've lost to communist and/or socialist tyranny?
Nobody is saying that "since X has harmed people, we cannot talk about
X" (or that "if X has harmed people, we must talked about X", for that
matter). The issue is that a project member used the project to spread
lies/disinformation/falsehoods/conspiracies about X being a hoax.
I'm sorry that people in your life have been harmed by a different X,
but as long as Debian members aren't trying to tell you that that X is a
hoax, I don't see how the topics are even remotely related.
> We clearly have a politically biased process when it comes to what
> behaviors/words/thoughts are being policed. I'm not even asking for an
> unbiased treatment of everyone (though that would be ideal). What I am
> asking for is that we have a clear statement of the bias that exists so
> that people who are concerned about being affected these policies have
> an opportunity to know beforehand.
I for one am proud that the project is biased in favor of the best
scientific consensus and evidence at hand, i.e. in favor of the best
tools that we as a species have at our disposal to understand what is
*true* in the physical world. Biased in favor of the truth, if you will.
-- Gard
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