Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> writes: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 10:53:46AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> writes: >> >> > In practice, the free installer is useless on its own. >> >> That is not my experience -- I'm using Debian through its installer on a >> number of laptops, desktops and servers, and for my purposes it works >> fine and in general I have not needed to enable non-free/contrib for >> hardware support. > > That's very interesting. Can you share the spec for those machines, and > if possible point to where they can be bought? I use Dell R630 servers, Talos II workstation, HP ProLiant ML310e small server, and Lenovo X200/X201 laptops. Yeah the laptop is 10+ years old, but to be honest every time I try a modern laptop I don't notice any real difference except fancier display and longer battery life, neither of which I find important. Yes I am aware that I can install non-free firmware on the R630, but for my purposes (VM host, CI/CD, fuzzing, crypto/math computations) they do more harm than good so I chose not to. /Simon
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