Re: "rms-open-letter" GR choice 2: sign https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:15:32PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le vendredi 02 avril 2021 à 08:56:33+0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> > On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 09:11:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Phil Morrell <debian@emorrp1.name> writes:
> > >
> > > > Do the additional proposals made in that week mean the discussion period
> > > > has automatically been extended? Is the Secretary simply being pragmatic
> > > > here, executing discretion before announcing the start of the voting
> > > > period? Or perhaps the DPL has likely requested another alteration?
> > >
> > > Debian constitution A.2:
> > >
> > > 1. The proposer or a sponsor of a motion or an amendment may call for a
> > > vote, providing that the minimum discussion period (if any) has
> > > elapsed.
> > >
> > > 2. The proposer or any sponsor of a resolution may call for a vote on that
> > > resolution and all related amendments.
> > >
> > > The vote does not automatically commence after the end of the discussion
> > > period. Someone who is a proposer or sponsor has to explicitly call for
> > > it.
> >
> > There is also this in 4.2:
> > 4. The minimum discussion period is 2 weeks, but may be varied by up
> > to 1 week by the Project Leader. The Project Leader has a casting
> > vote. There is a quorum of 3Q.
> >
> > The DPL changed the minimum time for the discussion period to 1 week.
> > The discussion period is over when a vote is called.
>
> Not to wreck havoc, but there also is in A.2:
>
> 4. The minimum discussion period is counted from the time the last formal
> amendment was accepted, or since the whole resolution was proposed if no
> amendments have been proposed and accepted.
>
> So I guess since you acccepted the last amendment on March the 31st,,
> we're up to the 7th April before the vote may be called for.
>
> Am I wrong?
This is part where the constitution is really hard to parse, and
it's something I've struggled with for a long time. The terms are
used in conflicting ways. I hope someone will take the time to fix
this.
In A.1. there is:
2. A formal amendment may be accepted by the resolution's proposer, in
which case the formal resolution draft is immediately changed to
match.
3. If a formal amendment is not accepted, or one of the sponsors of
the resolution does not agree with the acceptance by the proposer
of a formal amendment, the amendment remains as an amendment and
will be voted on.
It's my current interpretation that no formal amendment was
accepted.
Kurt
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