Re: Cancel "culture" is a threat to Debian

[Pasha <pasha@bell01.com>]

On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 15:38 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> Sergey,
> 
> On 01.04.21 15:24, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote:
> > > You're making a good cause to make the lists read-only for non-
> > > members
> > 
> > I'm trying to argue my position, instead of long reasonings about
> > feelings of my opponents and so on.  Is that wrong for the Debian
> > now?
> 
> To what goal are you trying to argue your position? You don't need to
> send the answer to the list, it's an invitation to self-reflection.
> 
> > Why?  Because it's how you analyze counter-arguments.
> > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2021/03/msg00412.html - a
> > good
> > example.)
> > 
> > > I joined Debian because it is inclusive
> > 
> > The original goal of the Debian was not being inclusive,
> > but a free OS.  That's all debian users still expect from the
> > project.
> 
> Please speak only for yourself and not for "all Debian users", I
> doubt 
> you know all of them :)
> 
> Goals might evolve. It's also called "growing up".
> 
> Ever heard about the change curve? When change happens around us, we
> go 
> through different phases coping with that change. On which part of
> the 
> curve are you? 
> https://www.mydigitalsurfari.de/wp-content/uploads/Unbenanntes-Notizbuch-3.jpg
>  
> 
> 
> Take care,
> u.
> 


> > > I joined Debian because it is inclusive
> > 
> > The original goal of the Debian was not being inclusive,
> > but a free OS.  That's all debian users still expect from the
> > project.
> 
> Please speak only for yourself and not for "all Debian users", I
> doubt 
> you know all of them :)
> 
> Goals might evolve. It's also called "growing up".
> 

I started using Debian when I was in school.

Now, if you tell me the goal of Debian changed from free OS to
something else - it is not the reason I am using Debian.

note: I personally also support the other cause.

In future I fear that I might get an proprietary kernel with "apt-get
upgrade" that is exclusively licensed for Debian because we are
"growing up" and free OS/software is not to goal of Debian anymore.