On 19/11/14 at 12:25 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:37:25AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > I fear that, by reducing the average 'age' from 7.8 years to ~2 years, > > we are going too far. I would like to make it easier, for some members, > > to stay members of the TC for longer than 4 years. OTOH, I don't want > > this decision to be taken lightly. > > Again, this is true only under the assumption that former members won't > come back. > > But even with that assumption, it seems you're arguing for the fact that > a term limit of 4.5 years (and therefore an average of about half of > that, modulo the transition period) is too short. It's hard to judge > that in the abstract, but my gut feeling is that it is in fact quite > long. Volunteers, especially when active in stress-full roles, do need > shorter cycles. I don't think that the TC is a stress-full role. Obviously the recent past proved how the role can be incredibly stressful at times. But there has also been long periods without much activity, as shown on https://www.debian.org/devel/tech-ctte or https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-ctte.png > > I'm not sure of how to achieve that. We could just drop the mandatory > > vacation clause, and have expired TC members go through the same > > process as prospective new members (nomination, etc.). The TC and the > > DPL would then have to consider whether it's better to re-appoint an > > old member, or to replace him/her with a new one. But maybe that's not > > enough to ensure the suitable rate of change... > > > > What do you think? > > I see where you are going, but all in all it seems to me you have in > mind a different model from what has been now distilled in the current > draft. Which is of course absolutely fine. I'd love to see a more > complete sketch of your model (e.g., as a draft GR) to better compare > and contrast. Maybe the best way forward here is to come up with > alternative models and have all of them in a GR. Maybe. I'll wait for a few more days for additional feedback. Also, I'm not entirely satisfied with my proposal to just drop the mandatory vacation clause, and have expired TC members go through the same process as other candidates if they want another term. Lucas
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