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Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling



On 11/09/2014 at 05:26 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 04:27:21AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> 
>> I'd assume he was referring to:
>> 
>>> If my GR passes we will only have to have this conversation if
>>> those who are outvoted do not respect the project's collective
>>> decision.
>> 
>>> If my GR fails I expect a series of bitter rearguard battles
>>> over individual systemd dependencies.
>> 
>> This to me reads like the threat Holger mentioned. And for the
>> record, I was very surprised to this given the history of the
>> decision.
> 
> FWIW, I did not read this as a threat, or at least, I did not read it
> as suggesting that Ian himself would participate in this bitter
> rearguard action. I read this as meaning Ian suspected that unless
> his GR was carried, various anti-systemd people would not be
> mollified and their disagreement would percolate down to individual
> packages and bugs, rather than being discussed (and potentially
> addressed) at a project-wide level. As such, and I'm assuming good
> faith on Ian's part here, I think Ian was trying to describe what he
> thought was the likely outcome, and not specifically threaten to
> behave in a particular way.

Thank you. I've been trying to think of a way to clearly express that
for some time now, ever since people first started to indicate that they
thought this comment was a threat.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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