Re: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

[Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org>]

Le Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 08:27:40PM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit :
> Charles Plessy wrote:
> >   In accordance to the paragraph 4.2.2 of the constition, this
> >   suspension takes immediately effect until a procedural vote decides if
> >   the supsension is lifted until the vote of this general resolution.
> 
> Besides a few grammatical errors and typos, the main problem with this is 
> that the second half of the sentence is very unclear. It is also IMO 
> unnecessary as what will happen if this GR is supported by enough 
> developers to activate the suspension is already described in the 
> constitution. Duplicating that here in different words can only result in 
> problems.

Hi all,

I have integrated the changes suggested by Frans, Robert, and aspell
(wdiff attached).

Here is the amended proposal:

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 - Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
   mailing list (Message-id: <878wsgmi1j.fsf@vorlon.ganneff.de>) about "Developer
   Status";

 - Given the importance of defining how the Project accepts new members;

 - Because of the strong opposition to the method used to prepare, discuss and
   decide the announced changes, and without judging their validity;

 - In accordance with the paragraphs 4.1(3) and 4.2(2.2) of the Constitution; 

The Debian Project, by way of a general resolution of its developers, decides:

  The changes announced the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
  mailing list (Message-id: <878wsgmi1j.fsf@vorlon.ganneff.de>) are
  suspended [§4.1(3)].  This suspension is effective immediately [§4.2(2.2)].

In addition, the developers make the following statement:

  The delegates of the Project leader are asked to not take decisions that are
  not consensual about the membership procedures of the Project, and to let
  these procedures change by way of a general resolution if no consensus
  can be reached.
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Have a nice day,

-- 
Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan

 - Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
   mailing list (Message-id: <878wsgmi1j.fsf@vorlon.ganneff.de>) about "Developer
   Status";

 - Given the importance of defining how the Project accepts new members;

 - Because of the strong opposition to the method used to prepare, discuss and
   decide the announced changes, and without judging [-on-] their validity;

 {+- In accordance with the paragraphs 4.1(3) and 4.2(2.2) of the Constitution;+} 

The Debian Project, by [-the-] way of a general resolution of its [-developpers,-] {+developers,+} decides:

  The changes announced the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce
  mailing list (Message-id: <878wsgmi1j.fsf@vorlon.ganneff.de>) are [-suspended.
  In accordance to the paragraph 4.2.2 of the constition, this-]
  {+suspended [§4.1(3)].  This+} suspension
  [-takes immediately effect until a procedural vote decides if the supsension-] is [-lifted until the vote of this general resolution.-] {+effective immediately [§4.2(2.2)].+}

In addition, the [-developpers-] {+developers+} make the following [-statememt:-] {+statement:+}

  The delegates of the Project leader are asked to not take decisions that are
  not consensual about the membership procedures of the Project, and to let
  these procedures change by [-the-] way of a general resolution if no consensus
  can be reached.