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Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64



Euh. This ought to be signed, IIRC..

On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 06:21:41PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 05:27:24PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > It really sucks that we reached this point. But since proper communication has
> > failed horribly to resolve this, I recognise there's no other way.
> > 
> > Seconded.
> 
> I hereby withdraw my second to this proposal.
> 
> Many developers were concerned about voting not being the most adequate method
> to solve technical problems, and I'm only concerned about the communication
> problem. I'll try to help finding another solution.
> 
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 02:43:59PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > The Debian project,
> > > 
> > > based on its Social Contract stating that its priorities are its users 
> > > and free software,
> > > 
> > > recognizing that the AMD64-based architectures are likely to become the
> > > most widespread on personal computers and workstations in a near future,
> > > 
> > > and acknowledging that its users want to take advantage of all this
> > > architecture's features,
> > > 
> > > hereby resolves:
> > > 
> > > 1. that the next Debian GNU/Linux release, codenamed "sarge", will 
> > >    include the "amd64" architecture, based on the work currently hosted 
> > >    at http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/ ;
> > > 2. that non-compliance of that "amd64" distribution with the Linux 
> > >    Standard Base specification for IA32 will not be considered a 
> > >    release-critical bug;
> > > 3. that we will include it immediately in the "sid" distribution and 
> > >    auto-building infrastructure, and take all appropriate steps so 
> > >    that inclusion won't delay the release of "sarge" any further.
> > > 
> > > Rationale:
> > > 
> > > With our current release timeframe, AMD64 is likely to become the most 
> > > sold architecture for personal computers way before the release that 
> > > will follow sarge. If we don't release sarge with AMD64 support, our 
> > > users will be very disappointed. The popularity of the debian-amd64 
> > > project just shows what they are waiting for.
> > > 
> > > Furthermore, the AMD64 architecture is mostly ready. It now builds just 
> > > as many packages as our other release architectures, and it has a 
> > > working installer.
> > > 
> > > The only valid reasons for not including it are lack of LSB compliance
> > > (which can still be easily achieved with a i386 chroot) and mirror space
> > > (which will be saved using partial mirroring). Another reason seems to
> > > be the lack of cooperation of some developers. This resolution intends
> > > to make everyone cooperate in this direction. Of course, the author of
> > > this resolution would welcome if the people responsible would just do
> > > it, thereby making this resolution superfluous.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm looking for seconds for this proposal, and I hope this can be 
> > > discussed quickly so that it doesn't delay the release for too long.
> > > -- 
> > >  .''`.           Josselin Mouette        /\./\
> > > : :' :           josselin.mouette@ens-lyon.org
> > > `. `'                        joss@debian.org
> > >   `-  Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom
> > 
> > -- 
> > Robert Millan
> > 
> > "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the
> > thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he
> > gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."
> > 
> >  -- J.R.R.T., Ainulindale (Silmarillion)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Robert Millan
> 
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> (kernel of *(Berkeley Software Distribution))
> 
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Robert Millan

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