Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 05:27:24PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
>
>
> It really sucks that we reached this point. But since proper communication has
> failed horribly to resolve this, I recognise there's no other way.
>
> Seconded.
I hereby withdraw my second to this proposal.
Many developers were concerned about voting not being the most adequate method
to solve technical problems, and I'm only concerned about the communication
problem. I'll try to help finding another solution.
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 02:43:59PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > The Debian project,
> >
> > based on its Social Contract stating that its priorities are its users
> > and free software,
> >
> > recognizing that the AMD64-based architectures are likely to become the
> > most widespread on personal computers and workstations in a near future,
> >
> > and acknowledging that its users want to take advantage of all this
> > architecture's features,
> >
> > hereby resolves:
> >
> > 1. that the next Debian GNU/Linux release, codenamed "sarge", will
> > include the "amd64" architecture, based on the work currently hosted
> > at http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/ ;
> > 2. that non-compliance of that "amd64" distribution with the Linux
> > Standard Base specification for IA32 will not be considered a
> > release-critical bug;
> > 3. that we will include it immediately in the "sid" distribution and
> > auto-building infrastructure, and take all appropriate steps so
> > that inclusion won't delay the release of "sarge" any further.
> >
> > Rationale:
> >
> > With our current release timeframe, AMD64 is likely to become the most
> > sold architecture for personal computers way before the release that
> > will follow sarge. If we don't release sarge with AMD64 support, our
> > users will be very disappointed. The popularity of the debian-amd64
> > project just shows what they are waiting for.
> >
> > Furthermore, the AMD64 architecture is mostly ready. It now builds just
> > as many packages as our other release architectures, and it has a
> > working installer.
> >
> > The only valid reasons for not including it are lack of LSB compliance
> > (which can still be easily achieved with a i386 chroot) and mirror space
> > (which will be saved using partial mirroring). Another reason seems to
> > be the lack of cooperation of some developers. This resolution intends
> > to make everyone cooperate in this direction. Of course, the author of
> > this resolution would welcome if the people responsible would just do
> > it, thereby making this resolution superfluous.
> >
> >
> > I'm looking for seconds for this proposal, and I hope this can be
> > discussed quickly so that it doesn't delay the release for too long.
> > --
> > .''`. Josselin Mouette /\./\
> > : :' : josselin.mouette@ens-lyon.org
> > `. `' joss@debian.org
> > `- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom
>
> --
> Robert Millan
>
> "[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the
> thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he
> gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."
>
> -- J.R.R.T., Ainulindale (Silmarillion)
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