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Re: Using old (not systemd) system logs



Hi,

On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 11:14:51AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 12/12/2025 21:46, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > *BY DEFAULT* you have no human-readable log files, meaning you
> > cannot read them with a comfortable and familiar command line
> > interface, nor can you read them by mounting the (partially failed?)
> > disk in a different system for post mortem analysis, and so on.
> 
> I admit I have not had an accident requiring real postmortem analysis so
> far, but is it a real problem?

I hesitate to comment because this thread just seems so confrontational
that anything can be interpreted as carrying the flag of one army or
another, but…

…no, I personally do not see it as an issue because for more than a
decade the "journalctl" binary has been able to read journal files from
an arbitrary filesystem path so all you need is a copy of the files.
A journald process does not actually need to be running.

Thanks,
Andy
(Mostly not a journald user, but this facet had no bearing on that
choice)

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