On 2025-07-14, Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 01:18:03PM -0000, Greg wrote: >>the old dinosaurs hold them in a certain disdain > > You don't understand irony, do you? > Sure. All the old hands (Hasler, Wright, tomas, Wooledge et. al.) are using Gnome, the default Debian desktop.