Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 3:10 PM Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> >
> > Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > > I don't think removing email workflows (which implies removing mailing
> > > lists) is wise.
> > >
> > > Debian can support new ways to participate, like Social Media and
> > > Chat, for Gen-Z. However, I don't believe it is an either/or
> > > proposition. Debian should support email, mailing lists and other
> > > methods for everyone.
> >
> > The D language folks have a great system at
> > https://forum.dlang.org
> >
> > The web interface is exactly the same as the mailing lists,
> > which are exactly the same as the newsgroups, which also
> > produces an ATOM/RSS feed and an IRC bot. Any access reads and,
> > if possible, posts to the same streams of messages.
> >
> > And, yes, it's open source - AGPL 3.0.
> >
> > It does depend on having a working NNTP server behind the
> > scenes, but the good news there is that the one they test
> > against is INN, which is packaged in Debian.
>
> At the risk of sounding argumentative... I would not say "exactly the
> same [web interface vs mailing list]". See "Why use mailing lists?" at
> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/q6A_anL1u-Y9iXe-vboiOYamsl0/>.
No, everything RSK says there is correct, but you missed the
point:
the same discussions, the same threads, the same messages are
all available through five different interfaces. SMTP, NNTP,
HTTP, HTTP/RSS, IRC.
You can look over things in your RSS reader, click to get into
the web archive-which-is-also-a-forum-client, then go back to
your mutt session and send a well-considered email in the same
thread, which people can then read through all of the same
interfaces.
So, people who claim that email is dead to them don't need to
use it, while interacting with people who wouldn't use forum
software if they were paid.
-dsr-
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