Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]
On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 11:29:23PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:58:54 +0900, John Crawley wrote:
> > The Debian Wiki has these suggestions for how to deal with spam:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#nominate
>
> The fourth option there says:
>
> * Use your mail client's bounce/resend/redirect functionality to send
> the spam messages to report-listspam@lists.debian.org
>
> > So it looks as if resending a spam message to report-listspam@lists.debian.org is OK, although "bouncing" the message back to the server is very much not, even if your MUA can do that.
>
> I'm pretty sure the wiki says it's OK. I cited it right up there.
>
> To be clear, what we're talking about here is what mutt does when you
> press the "b" key. It queues up a message for delivery, where the
> envelope recipient address is one that you specify by typing it in,
> and the entire message (header + body) is exactly what you received,
> with no modifications made by the MUA.
I have just tried this, re-sending the message to which I am replying to myself.
I do see some differences to the header, some of which will be my local MTA
(exim) but I think that those added by mutt are: Resent-From: Resent-Date:
Resent-Message-ID: Resent-To: If Resent-From: the message might not be
delivered due to SPF issues.
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< Return-path: <bounce-debian-user=addw=phcomp.co.uk@lists.debian.org>
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> From addw@phcomp.co.uk Fri Jun 27 04:32:28 2025
> Return-path: <addw@phcomp.co.uk>
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< Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:30:24 +0100
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> Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:32:28 +0100
> Received: from addw by mint.phcomp.co.uk with local (Exim 4.96)
> (envelope-from <addw@phcomp.co.uk>)
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> for addw@phcomp.co.uk;
> Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:32:28 +0100
> Resent-From: Alain D D Williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk>
> Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 04:32:27 +0100
> Resent-Message-ID: <aF4Qy7mLKAW3K8jw@phcomp.co.uk>
> Resent-To: Alain Williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk>
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< Delivered-To: lists-debian-user@bendel.debian.org
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< Status: RO
> Mutt calls this action "bounce", but I would not use the phrase "back
> to the server" to describe it. It's more like a forwarding action,
> because you're passing the message along to a new recipient.
>
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