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Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails



On Saturday, 11 June 2022 14:52:36 EDT David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 11:47:46 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:01:48 EDT Andy Smith wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 07:31:36AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:49:57 EDT David Wright wrote:
> > > > > > AFAIK, there's no way of recording the screens if you use
> > > > > > text
> > > > > > mode
> > > > > > locally, rather than remotely. Hence the instructions I have
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > posting. However, it's difficult to write those instructions
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > someone to follow when it appears that they have forgotten
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > to cut and paste text from a terminal screen into a file or
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > editor's buffer, or think that you can cut and paste from a
> > > > > > PNG.
> > > > 
> > > > That limit is very easy to see, there is no mouse in those remote
> > > > text
> > > > screens to use to highlight what you might want to paste into
> > > > nano
> > > > and
> > > > keep.
> > > 
> > > Gene, come on. You know how to select and paste out of an xterm. It
> > > does not matter what that xterm is doing, whether it is displaying
> > > a
> > > file of locally stored bible notes, running the Debian installer or
> > > running minicom into the serial port of a nuclear power station's
> > > control panel. It displays text. You select the text with a mouse
> > > and paste that into a another document.
> > > 
> > > Why is getting you to paste textual data from one terminal window
> > > into another (or a text editor or email or whatever) so
> > > monumentally difficult?
> > 
> > Very simple Andy, the vt1-2-3-4, what have you text login does NOT
> > use
> > the mouse, so there is no way to highlight what you want to
> > copy/paste. Why is that so hard to understand as the reason I can't
> > post what I see?
> > 
> > In a gfx login I use konsole simply because its the most full
> > feature,
> > bug free terminal software linux offers. The only other term proggy I
> > see in the menu's here it termit, which up to now I'v never used. So
> > let me look at it before I hit the reset botton after plugging in
> > the optical drive with the d-i in it. Aha! it uses the mouse to
> > highlight text on screen, and pastes it into nano AS TEXT.
> > Marvelous. but will it run on an alt+ctrl+f2 screen.
> > 
> > no.
> 
> Reread my instructions. You weren't asked to cut and paste on a VC
> (console), but in an xterm.
> 
> > So what is this "xterm" you speak of that is supposed to be able to
> > do
> > all this magic stuff.
> 
> Don't be so disingenuous—you know very well. You've used it.
> Not surprisingly, you've remonstrated on it here.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> .
The fact remains that xterm is not in the pulldown menu's, I have konsole 
and termit, and termit will work from x and give me mouse driven copy/
paste. But its a teeny litle thing on this monitors screen. About 3x4", 
can be expanded, but the border grabber is only one pixel wide. You 
really have to hunt for it.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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