Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things
On Wednesday 22 December 2021 11:21:47 am Dan Ritter wrote:
> Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Monday 20 December 2021 10:09:56 am Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > > > > Suggestions as to where I might look for the problem?
> > > >
> > > > In general, that message means that even if there is a copy of
> > > > the pulseaudio daemon running, it is not running with the right
> > > > userid and the X11 session you are running in doesn't know about
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Run "pulseaudio --start" and try again.
> > >
> > > That did get the volume control as invoked from the Xfce applications menu working, all right. Looking in the process table that I see under KDE System Monitor (what I usually use to keep track of system loading) I now see pulseaudio in there twice. One shows the command you mention here, and the other one doesn't, and says "daemonize=no". I'm guessing that's the problem, where to fix it is another question. Mousing over it I also see "parent=systemd" for both of them...
> > >
> > > Looking at "man systemd", nothing jumps out at me with regard to where I want to go from here.
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> > With this having been done, after restarting the virtualbox instance, sound is now working there also. What I might need to fiddle with in terms of systemd is not at all clear to me, though. I don't know why this would have changed with the upgrade.
Yes, it's things changing when I upgrade that bother me about all of this...
> > Any further thoughts on this?
>
> Since it just happened... I'll say that pulseaudio is easily on
> the same level of reliability as Windows 95. I decided to test
> out the advertised capability of a music player as a USB DAC. As
> soon as I got things plugged in, the pulseaudio daemon crashed.
> After I restarted it, the pulseeffects equalizer service froze.
> After I restarted that, pulseeffects decided that it would be a
> good idea to use the USB microphone as both default input and
> output...
I don't know enough about what you're dealing with there to comment on this.
> It's currently working. But I'd so much rather have systems that
> didn't think that they should switch configurations
> automatically, since PA is so terrible at reading my mind.
>
> Anyway, upgrade to bullseye.
I'll get there. But before I continue with upgrades, I intend to fix what's broken, and maybe trim some of the fat out of the system as it stands, so I don't end up having to download and upgrade stuff I don't use or don't want.
In my initial install, I selected multiple desktop environments, so I could try them out. While I was fine with real early versions of KDE, I don't like where they've gone with it so I don't use it as a desktop, though I do use a few of the utilities. I seem to be seeing bits of stuff running, though, that shouldn't be. And also from some of the other choices. I need to clean that up a bit, I think, in addition to the above...
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