Re: CUPS mailing list (was: Re: bullseye fusses)
On Sat, 11 Dec, 2021 at 10:32 PM, Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> wrote:
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 02:56:12AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> Is that the list that you are talking about?
For those playing along at home, Gene directly sent me a rambling
HTML reply which did confirm that
cups@cups.org is the list he is
talking about, but only went on to say that he has attempted to
subscribe to it again and has not yet received an error.
So it seems most likely that this is user error as opposed to the
evil machinations of Apple corp, but we will probably never know
because as usual Gene does not provide any details as to what errors
he has seen up until now.
> I think you will do better if you did the usual thing of
> explaining:
>
> - exactly what you did
> - what exactly happened including exact output of any error message
> given (not your recollection of what may have happened)
> - what exactly you expected to happen instead
Gene's idea of progressing this was as follows:
I expected the smtp agent to be able to query
imap.shentel.net
for port and protocol supported auto fill. but it apparently
can't do that yet.
…which is basically just a restatement of "thing does not work"
without providing any useful information. Though did provide several
paragraphs of irrelevant personal rambling and insults aimed at
various software projects.
Maybe someone else can have a go and have more luck, but trying to
extract any usable information out of Gene seems like it will be, as
usual, an exhausting and unrewarding process.
Thanks,
Andy
That does it Andy, I had a TL;DR message tracing an attempt to send myself
a msg via kmail, and was going to send it, but something in FF changed
the list address from .org to .net, and the display of the To: address at the
top of this fixed size form only shows it as debian-user@lists.de... so I can't
see it, wrong damned address = instant rejection.
I am sick of trying to explain
whats going on with kmail and being told I have no valid info in my complaints,
even when I copy/paste what I'm getting.
I don't like webmail anymore than you do but everytime my ancient fingers touch
two adjacent keys, the screen blinks and FF does something to screw up the
whole mail WITHOUT SHOWING ME ONSCREEN THAT ITS SCREWED. Now I just found
a copy of that email in the FF sent folder, so let me see if I can copy/paste the
working parts:
So here's the TL;DR version of trying to receive email files put in
/home/gene/.Maildir by procmail:
1. Set that address in config/kmail/accounts/receiving.
There are currently about 270 email files there: Or were the last
time I looked, but they are gone now, in which case should I not have
about 270 new, unread mails? Checking the mail, kmail has rx'ed those
msgs according to the dates, but in nothing resembling real time. Next
day maybe? So assuming that is somewhat working, does kmail recognise
that I have seen those mails with firefox, so it doesn't mark them as new
when it pulls them from local storage, fetched by fetchmail and placed in
/home/gene./Maildir by procmail?
just for S&G, I'll try sending me a msg with kmail's snmp.
ISP and is stuck in the outbox, fail msg is:
Failed to transport message. The remote host closed the connection
I can move it to trash and have. And at no point in that did I see a button
to query the isp's version of dovecot to see what it wants.
I composed another after cleaning out the outbox, but got the same msg
as above after I found and used the auto-config and it did set stuff differently.
This is the raw msg:
====================
From: gene <gheskett@shentel.net>
To: Gene <gheskett@shentel.net>
Subject: testing kmails send
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 23:20:39 -0500
Message-ID: <3261619.4cKSPi9zZA@coyote>
X-KMail-Identity: 2255060675
X-KMail-Transport: 1827825406
X-KMail-Fcc: 239
X-KMail-Identity-Name: Default
X-KMail-Transport-Name: shentel.net #1
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi gene, did it work?
==============
and sending is now set by the autoconfig for:
checked SSL/TLS
port 465 and I just found the authentification unchecked for at least the 10th time.
Set it, made sure the pw was correct and hit ctl+l to send.
The outbox emptied, but nothing in kmails sent-mail. And nothing from
me in firefox after several minutes and a couple inbox refreshes.
End of copy/paste. Is that detailed enough?
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