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Re: Fetchnews (was Re: Home made backup system)



Kenneth Parker wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
>>   i only use a few commands regularly and have them either
>> aliased or stuck in history for me in my .bashrc
>> (i start every session by history -c to get rid of
>> anything and then use history -s "command" so pretty
>> much my routine when signing on in the morning is to
>> do !1 and then !2, !3 if i need to do a dist-upgrade.
>>
>> !1 is apt-get update & fetchnews
>>
>
> I opened a possible Hornet's Nest (at least in my understanding) on a
> Public Server that I administer.   I had not seen "fetchnews" before and,
> thinking it might give info on Upgradeable Packages, tried it, getting a
> message about "leafnode" not found.

  i think that would be apt-listchanges (i think).  i don't use
it i just use the apt-get update or apt-get dist-upgrade output
to see what is potentially being changed and make sure there's
nothing in there too scary before i answer Y to the download
and update prompt.


> Fair enough.  So, "apt-get install leafnode", which starts asking me when
> it's supposed to Fetch this News.  Finally smelling something fishy, I
> clicked on "none", and am examining what I just did to a "Debian-Like"
> Ubuntu 16.04 Server.
>
> Obviously, I am partly to blame, as the "&" means multiple commands on one
> Command Line.  It only "seemed" to be related to the "Apt-get update"
> command.

  oops sorry!


> So, Mr. Songbird, are we talking  nntp here?  (That takes me back several
> years!)

  yes!  :)  it is how i read this group and write back
via gmane.  it is much faster way to read LKML and a
bunch of other lists too than via a web interface.  i can
skim a few thousand posts in just a few moments and
pick out the stuff that interests me.  mark the rest all
read and it's done.


> On Topic for here, is to make sure others don't make my error.  Off Topic
> (and feel free to personal reply me, Songbird) is my curiosity on, what
> remains of our nntp News System.  Are there still good Servers out there?
> (Last time I checked, I found a smelly batch of Spam, mixed with Make Money
> Fast and Porn, which caused me to back off!)

  check out eternal-september.org  :)  no binaries.  just
text.  that is all i want to read anyways.


>> !2 is apt-get upgrade
>> !3 is apt-get dist-upgrade
>
>
><snip:  Response to original Thread, irrelevant to this new one>
>
> But, in your Personal response, I'm interested in if there are, properly
> Moderated Newsgroups that actually Work?

  there used to be one i was busy in which is now moribund like
many of the others, but you can still find some active enough
corners for some good conversations in good ol' text.  even ones
that are not moderated you can filter out people who you'd 
rather not read any more.


> Thank you and best regards,
>
> Kenneth Parker (Doesn't sing like a Bird, but took College Chorus Classes).

  i also have fetchnews and postnews as separate entries in
the history but as a habit the first thing i want to do when
i sign on is get the news and update my package lists.


  songbird


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