On 12/15/19 11:45 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Jimmy Johnson (2019-12-16 02:13:08)On 12/14/19 5:29 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:Hi Alessandro, Quoting Alessandro Vesely (2019-12-14 13:23:14)On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote:I use Devuan, especially on older hardware. Works well.Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on old-stable Debian. As, in a few months, it will be time to migrate, I'll have to decide on Devuan (current) vs. Buster. Any recommendation on that? Will the voted resolution shred any light on migration strategies?Since this is a Debian list, I recommend to discuss Debian here, and consult Devuan mailinglist for details of what they can offer. The vote currently in Debian will affect _future_ releases of Debian, not the current stable release, Buster. For Debian Buster (regardless of the outcome of the vote) SysV is a supported init system: Please do report any flaws you may encounter!Kde5 on buster without systemd don't work,True, and also what I wrote (and even mentioned KDE explicitly): Depends on which kind of system you need and how much of systemd must be gone. In case you missed, here it is again:Beware in discussions here and elsewhere to distinguish between these: a) running a system with SysV as init system b) running a system without systemd installed c) running a system without libsystemd0 installed If you need a), then quite likely Debian Buster is fine for you. If you need b) and don't need a complex¹ X11/Wayland desktop environment, then Debian Buster is likely fine as well. If you need c) and/or a complex¹ X11/Wayland desktop environment, then Debian Buster is most likely no fun for you - might be possible, but you will feel alone and bugreports will be harder to debug due to your complex setup (in particular your suppressing package recommendations). ¹ In this context, "complex" desktop environments include GNOME, KDE, Cinnamon, MATE and more - as a rule of thumb anything which directly or indirectly recommends dbus-user-session.
It's nice to see that you agree. blessings, -- Jimmy Johnson Slackware64 11.19.KDE5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda7 Registered Linux User #380263